Trouble in the wet...
jus go to a parking lot in rainy days and spin the sh*t out of it. test the limit of the car. do some donuts and put ur car back to normal without stoping it. after that ,wet road wont be a single problem for u.lol
yeah the same thing happened to me... however, i was stupid and going about 40-50 through a 2 curve.... it jsut started raining and i was in a rush the back came loose but VSA did help and with a alittle coutner steerign and slowly easing off the gas i was fine.... "drifted" through the turn... i prob looked liek a jack ass lol....
i agree wit go to a parking alot and learn the car in and out
i agree wit go to a parking alot and learn the car in and out
I agree with shrek. Earlier this year I was making a left turn in 3rd gear at around 25-30 mph and the rear came around. I wasn't shifting, didn't lift, but was slightly decelerating due to traffic slowing after the turn. That's all it took. I counter steered and the rear tucked back in. Tires had less than 14K on them with mostly easy driving. It had been dry for several weeks before that rain.
It's possible you either lifted or decelerated as the car hit the bump, and when it came down it upset the car. It doesn't take much, even on AP2.
It's possible you either lifted or decelerated as the car hit the bump, and when it came down it upset the car. It doesn't take much, even on AP2.
I want to share with all of you my experience regarding wet road conditions. Maybe others have had a similar experience, or it may help others in the future?
I live in the northeast US. The driving conditions were, no rain, and a sunny fall day. Time of the year was this October. Air temperature was 70'F, and the humidity was high. The time of day was 3:30 to 5:00 PM.
We had rain the day before. The trip my wife and I were taking was on a twisty, 2 lane, asphalt road. In fact there are 2 hairpin turns on this road.
In looking at the road, some moisture was present on the road surface do to rain the previous day. The shady spots showed a darker color. As we drove, the road surface again, in the shady areas looked darker, with the sun beginning to set.
In the first hairpin turn, going 5MPH over the speed limit the car was twitching. Nothing dramatic, but not what I expected. With my wife in the car, I did not want to test the limits. The next hairpin turn, I took the turn at the exact speed limit, and went easy on the power. The posted speed through the turn was 15 MPH.
About 1 hour later we returned home on the same road. Going through the turns the car handled as if it were on ice. The film of moisture, on the road, was more visiable now, as the sun set, and dew was collecting on the road surface.
The car is an '05 with 7500 miles on factory stock tires. (Tire pressure at recommended manufacture PSI). At no time was the car in Vtec going through these sharp corners.
Quite frankly, after this experience, I can see how easily one could have an off-road excursion.
To All: Enjoy the S2000, and the spirited driving experience, but be ever mindful of the road conditions, Even on a sunny day!
I live in the northeast US. The driving conditions were, no rain, and a sunny fall day. Time of the year was this October. Air temperature was 70'F, and the humidity was high. The time of day was 3:30 to 5:00 PM.
We had rain the day before. The trip my wife and I were taking was on a twisty, 2 lane, asphalt road. In fact there are 2 hairpin turns on this road.
In looking at the road, some moisture was present on the road surface do to rain the previous day. The shady spots showed a darker color. As we drove, the road surface again, in the shady areas looked darker, with the sun beginning to set.
In the first hairpin turn, going 5MPH over the speed limit the car was twitching. Nothing dramatic, but not what I expected. With my wife in the car, I did not want to test the limits. The next hairpin turn, I took the turn at the exact speed limit, and went easy on the power. The posted speed through the turn was 15 MPH.
About 1 hour later we returned home on the same road. Going through the turns the car handled as if it were on ice. The film of moisture, on the road, was more visiable now, as the sun set, and dew was collecting on the road surface.
The car is an '05 with 7500 miles on factory stock tires. (Tire pressure at recommended manufacture PSI). At no time was the car in Vtec going through these sharp corners.
Quite frankly, after this experience, I can see how easily one could have an off-road excursion.
To All: Enjoy the S2000, and the spirited driving experience, but be ever mindful of the road conditions, Even on a sunny day!
Originally Posted by rustywave,Nov 5 2007, 04:09 AM
let's say his tires were worn way down. would that racelogic traction control thing even do anything?
Those of you who cannot catch a small low speed slide, even on ice, are driving the WRONG CAR; You should probably consider selling the S2000 and getting something more forgiving before you hurt someone or total the car.
It takes a little finesse to drive the S2000, but it only takes a LITTLE. If you can't muster it you WILL crash eventually.
Originally Posted by RED MX5,Nov 5 2007, 02:14 PM
If the story we've been told here is true and accurate, then the odds are pretty good that the RLTC would have prevented this accident, as CKit said, but traction control does not repeal the laws of physics, so it all depends.
Those of you who cannot catch a small low speed slide, even on ice, are driving the WRONG CAR; You should probably consider selling the S2000 and getting something more forgiving before you hurt someone or total the car.
It takes a little finesse to drive the S2000, but it only takes a LITTLE. If you can't muster it you WILL crash eventually.
Those of you who cannot catch a small low speed slide, even on ice, are driving the WRONG CAR; You should probably consider selling the S2000 and getting something more forgiving before you hurt someone or total the car.
It takes a little finesse to drive the S2000, but it only takes a LITTLE. If you can't muster it you WILL crash eventually.
Or take it to an autocross and learn the limits. You'll learn everything you need to very very quickly.
Im going to have to agree with a few of the comments posted above:
- Oily roads from recent rain
- Something on the road that was slick (cattle guard, oil, leaves, pine needles, etc)
- More wear on the rear treads than you think
- Slight change in road surface at one of the corners
Although my S has gotten swiggly at times, I think its very controlable and predictable. Fortunately its happened when I was expecting it - during semi-hard driving - and is easily remidied with by-the-book driving techniques. That said, I will agree with Ckit and others that an 06+ with VSA or RLTC is a good investment as it allows you to "relax" a little behind the wheel knowing a computer with a sole purpose - to allow you to remain in control - is in effect constantly. Im sure the most surprising thing is being taken off gaurd.
Like others have set, next time it rains take it to a parking lot. Find the break point, get acclimated with the car.. it'll pay off.
- Oily roads from recent rain
- Something on the road that was slick (cattle guard, oil, leaves, pine needles, etc)
- More wear on the rear treads than you think
- Slight change in road surface at one of the corners
Although my S has gotten swiggly at times, I think its very controlable and predictable. Fortunately its happened when I was expecting it - during semi-hard driving - and is easily remidied with by-the-book driving techniques. That said, I will agree with Ckit and others that an 06+ with VSA or RLTC is a good investment as it allows you to "relax" a little behind the wheel knowing a computer with a sole purpose - to allow you to remain in control - is in effect constantly. Im sure the most surprising thing is being taken off gaurd.
Like others have set, next time it rains take it to a parking lot. Find the break point, get acclimated with the car.. it'll pay off.
[QUOTE=RED MX5,Nov 5 2007, 11:14 AM]Those of you who cannot catch a small low speed slide, even on ice, are driving the WRONG CAR; You should probably consider selling the S2000 and getting something more forgiving before you hurt someone or total the car (if you have to drive like a grandma in the wet until you master the car, so be it).
It takes a little finesse to drive the S2000, but it only takes a LITTLE.
It takes a little finesse to drive the S2000, but it only takes a LITTLE.








but mine is 07 with vsa off feels a lot more stable then i thought it would be ive never driven AP1 though, and this is my first RWD car.
