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In Germany, they sold only about 4,500 S2000s. Many where involved in accidents and written off since.
German wikipedia has the numbers, scroll down. "Neuzulassungen" = "new registratioions - new cars sold" https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_S2000
This year i visited a Honda car meet here in Germany. About 150 cars, only 3 of them S2000. In the year i owned my S2000, i never encountered another S2000 on the road.
Here's the model extrapolated out thru 2050.
Note that the model predicts that half of all S2000s will have been totaled by the end of 2022.
It's also interesting to compare the model to Chris_Lum's VIO data. Presumably VIO numbers include salvage-title cars that are re-registered, which the model does not. Comparing his numbers to the model's 2016 prediction, we'd conclude that if the model is accurate, about 11,000 of the 25,000 predicted-totaled cars would have to have been salvaged and re-registered. That's about a 40-45% salvage rate, which does "seem" high (though I couldn't find any actual statistics in a quick google search). On the other hand, the S2000 is a niche car that owners/buyers are probably more likely to attempt to salvage; and we know from stories on this forum that certain parts of this car are unusually expensive, leading to total-loss declarations for relatively benign incidents (such as, most infamously, simple slashed-top seat-thefts). So a salvage rate around 40% seems at least plausible.
^I see you've explored the NZ MVR data sets! They've also got archived new-registration statistics going back to 2005, which adds a few cars to the '05-'09 period relative to your numbers. But I hadn't seen data for '99-'01 or '03-'04 (at some point I logged 10 NZ sales for '02, but didn't record the source). This at least gives a better overall picture - we can say that at least 126 S2000s were sold new in NZ, probably several more.
Because some people are really boring. Gah that person sounds lame.
Or just MAYBE he knows something no one else or very few people do? I guess it all comes down to ones choice as to how they spend their money and what makes them happy in doing so.
Got one here! (2003 with 14K as of SEP18). Since then, I have heard of many similar examples... Then again, this site is where that info would come to light, so its hard to say if examples like ours are "common" or just statistically rare examples coming to light here. I do think they are more prevalent than one might think because a lot of people (like the one from whom I bought my AP1) seem to have bought these as weekend or retirement cars for only occasional use. (My seller bought new at age 60, sold to me at age 75).
I expect to drive the car between 5,000 - 6,000 miles annually. Maintaining that rate, the car will still have well under 80,000 pampered miles at age 25! Last night I looked at S2000's for sale and found a surprising number of them with under 60,000 miles, and quite a few showing under 40,000. Several one- and two-owner cars, but more were multiple (3+) owner vehicles.
All anecdotes here, but I think its a typical snapshot in time for S2000's, showing that a large number of these truly special cars are being treated as if they are indeed special. But miles and age unavoidably pile up, so people like us who are lucky enough to have a low-mileage S2K should do our best to pamper them long-term. But..... I don't know about you, but my quandary is desperately wanting to drive my car often and far, while also wanting to preserve it and keep the miles low. My approach is that if the mood is right, I have the free time, the weather is nice, and the roads are dry, I'll drive it.
I'd say that if this person actually exists, he probably just thinks that because the car is special and out of production, its a good investment. And he is probably just a little eccentric.
In Germany, they sold only about 4,500 S2000s. Many where involved in accidents and written off since.
German wikipedia has the numbers, scroll down. "Neuzulassungen" = "new registratioions - new cars sold" https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_S2000
This year i visited a Honda car meet here in Germany. About 150 cars, only 3 of them S2000. In the year i owned my S2000, i never encountered another S2000 on the road.
I spent close to 10 days in Germany a couple of years ago and other than at the Nurburgring, I never saw another one on the road out there.
11-25-2018, 02:28 AM
