S2KFI, just about everything you posted sounds misquoted. Do some more research.

1. It would be very hard / impossible to make 338 RWHP on 8.5 PSI.
2. You cannot flash the S2000 ECU. But it sounds like they were referencing Hondata, which is not available for the S2000.
3. I don't believe that there is such a thing as a Vortech BOV. Maybe FMU?

Either the shop you are talking with is full of it, or you simply don't understand enough about this to understand what they were telling you. Either way would lead me to believe that you're not ready for this endeavor. Look into the Comptech or Vortech SC kits. Sorry if I come across to blunt, just trying to save you some hassle. Good luck with your project.

 

I feel that the WORST mistake someone can make going FI is to say "Shop X said they could set me up with a great system...I'm not sure what they were talking about, but I trust them."

If you don't take the time to fully understand not only what is involved in the project, but also what affect eah piece will have on your system as a whole, then you are not ready to attack the project. You should understand what fuel maps are and what safe/dangerous numbers are. You should understand the tradeoffs with the specific compressor you're running. You should understand what will happen to the system at every step of the way if a particular component fails. You should understand that no matter how much time and money you budget for the project, it is always going to take more...a LOT more. If you do not understand all of the above, you won't be prepared for when something goes wrong.

 

Damn that sounds so true not just in regards to turbos but to life... I wanted a turbo but I know J/S about them. I wish it was plug and play.

 

For all those who know J/S about turbos:


Stick with superchargers, spend less, make more power, drive your car more often

 

i dont know j/s about turbos and i've had a turbo before.
i loved turbo so much thats why i'm planning on getting one for my s2k,not for the benefit of having more power, but for the.... well you turbo guys know

edit* well power is always a plus

 

To all you turbo'd S2000 what was the hardest/difficult part of setting up your turbo? and did you ever regret getting the turbo for whatever reason (problems, law enforcement, maintenance)

 

Probably the tuning; it's all about the tuning.

 

How about we modify that statement a bit...how about "For all those who know J/S about turbos...LEARN!"? Blanket SC statements of "spend less, make more power" are highly deceiving, especially when it's under the guise of "You don't have to understand how a SC works to make a lot of power." That type of poor logic is exactly what gets FI newbies into trouble in the first place.

rpm for rpm, you're going to make more power under the curve with a turbo, but with that extra power comes the responsibility to learn how it makes that power and thereby correctly creating a fuel/timing map.

SCs have gotten this magical aura about them that they're plug and play systems. They are...IF you're willing to deal with non-optimal power both at the given pressure (since they may not provide any fuel mapping, and if they do cannot know exactly how your specific car reacts and therefore tunes it down for safety) and have no real intentions of moving to a higher pressure system.

TCs have gotten this mystic fright about them that they blow up engines. They do...IF you don't pay attention to what you're doing. But there's nothing stopping a TC system from being just as plug-and-play as a SC system. Same deal as before...you specify a specific pressure that won't be upgraded in the future and provide some safe fuel maps to run it on. There you have it, a plug-and-play TC system that won't blow your motor up any faster than a SC system would.

Where many, such as yourself, make the illogical conclusion that TCs are somehow less safe than SCs is by comparing apples to oranges...compare them as I just did and they both work out fine. BUT, since the TC systems offer more capability down the road, they also require more responsibility when moving outside the safe boundaries of a plug-and-play system.

So many chime in with "Who's running a TC system they're happy with? Not even cjb80 who's been doing his for a couple of years!" This is true, but look at how far these guys are pushing the envelope? How many SC users do you know of that are trying to push into the 1.5-2 bar range? None that I know of, but last thing I remember Chris was working on fuel maps for his turbo in the low- to mid-20 psi range!!! They're not happy with an 8 psi system, so they push the envelope. They go beyond what a typical plug-and-play system would offer, and therefore accept the extended risks involved in doing so.

It's annoying to see so many SC vs. TC wars because they both have their advantages and disadvantages. It's like a "Great taste"/"Less filling" debate...neither side is wrong, so no one wins OR loses the war...you may get a decisive victory in a battle, but the war can never be over.

 

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