Who cares what law enforcement ppl appreciate. Just keep blasting vtec and see how far you can get before they get ya. lol jk

 

xviper,

Along similiar lines while looking at those pics, is an occasional grind (a few times a month) when trying a hard 1-2 redline upshift going to mess up the tranny? I swear it's the synchros because I never have that problem in any other gears(or any other of my many manual tranny cars I've owned). They just seem a bit slow to react or it's the clutch delay valve or something??

 

The clutch delay shouldn't have much to do with changing gears as it's more related to clutch "release". Fast gear changes require fast clutch disengagement and the delay doesn't affect this.

If you can believe (and I do) that thread from the information and photos that Woodwork sent me, then anytime you grind gears, you will take a little off the syncros. At what point this will manifest itself in a "messed up" tranny, someone more knowledgeable than me will have to answer.

If you've read the other thread that Woodwork posted up some years ago, you'll see that shifting this close gated 6 speed manual requires just a bit more finesse since it's not quite the same as shifting a 5 speed or 4 speed. Clutch operation must be completely to the floor on a well adjusted clutch and shifts must be precise and well timed with a bit of a 2 phased motion. This, by no means, say you have to shift slow, but rather, you have to learn to shift with a sort of "compounded" shift effort. That other thread explains it in detail. Sorry, I didn't bookmark that one.

 

WTF? Dude...how long have you had your S?

 

I'm going to stick my neck out and come to his defense. Now that he has posted up some "parameters" under which he does this, I think he's OK. Before I continue, I'd like to point out something really strange ................................
By doing what he's doing, he is ending up at around 2000 rpm after he goes into the higher gear. My question on this is ........................ WHY? This is verging on lugging the engine, which may be far worse than a bad skip shift.

Now to continue ................................
Generally speaking, the average "skip shifter" does this because he is going like crazy up the rev band, at which point, he finds himself already going way faster than he should be (due to speed limits). Then he skip shifts one or two gears, into a much higher gear. On the most part, these people do NOT take the time to allow the revs to come down to the appropriate rpm (rev matching) but, rather, they "ram" it into the higher gear. It is this action that will be the most detrimental to the syncros. If properly done, very little bad consequences will happen to the syncros.

To properly do this (and I hate to type this here as it is tempting for some to now do it), one would let off the gas and push in the clutch. At this point, you would hesitate (even better would be to double clutch to help the tranny slow down too), till the engine speed (and tranny speed) has come way down to about where it should be for that next higher gear, then shift into that gear and re-engage clutch and power.

It is this "assumed" inability for the general ownership to do this proper rev match that Honda would disuade people from doing it.

 

another question, when you're cruisin in neutral, like 30 mph and you want to keep that speed, is it ok to start in 3rd gear.

 

...and whats double clutch?

 

Why would you be "cruising" in neutral at 30 mph?

I'm sorry, but you need a lot more "schooling" about driving a manual car. I'm not touching these questions at all. I've stuck my neck out far enough.

 

Yes and no at the same time.

2 -> 5 at "normal shift" speed? Bad bad bad. Pure hell on your synchronizers.

However, if you'd like, step on the clutch, wait 4-5 seconds then select 5th and let the clutch out. The input shaft will have slowed down enough in that amount of time that it won't cause any real wear at all.

 

say you're in fourth gear at 40mph and comin' up on a light. is it ok to put the car in neutral and coast to the light. and if the light turns green where you're at around 30 mph, is it ok to shift to 3rd and go on your way. these may be stupid questions but i want to be sure before i f up my car