Are Volks TE37s Hubcentric?
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.....check the head of the push fastener that attaches the front fender liner just rear of 12 o'clock (probably passenger side).
.....check the head of the push fastener that attaches the front fender liner just rear of 12 o'clock (probably passenger side).
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Hubcentric vs. wheel stud alignment...
Wheels that do not have hub centering rings or are hubcentric had better use conical lugnuts/lugbolts to center the wheels.
FYI- hubcentric wheels are not necessarily stronger wheels. The most important thing is that the wheel is centered on the hub. Spherical lug nuts, which are used on many Honda OEM wheels, do not center wheels on the hub very well- hence Honda OEM wheels are hubcentric. Most aftermarket wheels use conical lugnuts- which when used properly have no need to be hubcentric.
I've only seen wheel studs break due to improper installation of the wheels- improper torquing resulting in lugnuts loosening or overtorquing resulting in sheared studs. I've also seen some problems when not using any anti-sieze thread compound, but generally that is less of a concern if maintained properly.
If you use wheels that are not hubcentric, they had better use conical lugnut system. From my experience, the proper way to tighten them is with the wheel off the ground, tightened evenly in a star pattern to within 90% of the recommended torque specification, then with the car on the ground, retightened in a star pattern to 100% of the recommended torque pattern.
I suggest also checking the lugnuts before, during and after any track event, and periodically.
Oh- and please use a torque wrench, and maintain that properly too.
Hubcentric vs. wheel stud alignment...
Wheels that do not have hub centering rings or are hubcentric had better use conical lugnuts/lugbolts to center the wheels.
FYI- hubcentric wheels are not necessarily stronger wheels. The most important thing is that the wheel is centered on the hub. Spherical lug nuts, which are used on many Honda OEM wheels, do not center wheels on the hub very well- hence Honda OEM wheels are hubcentric. Most aftermarket wheels use conical lugnuts- which when used properly have no need to be hubcentric.
I've only seen wheel studs break due to improper installation of the wheels- improper torquing resulting in lugnuts loosening or overtorquing resulting in sheared studs. I've also seen some problems when not using any anti-sieze thread compound, but generally that is less of a concern if maintained properly.
If you use wheels that are not hubcentric, they had better use conical lugnut system. From my experience, the proper way to tighten them is with the wheel off the ground, tightened evenly in a star pattern to within 90% of the recommended torque specification, then with the car on the ground, retightened in a star pattern to 100% of the recommended torque pattern.
I suggest also checking the lugnuts before, during and after any track event, and periodically.
Oh- and please use a torque wrench, and maintain that properly too.
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FWIW the Mugen are hubcentric (rear come with centering rings, front are a perfect fit) and the lugnuts are conical.
Better be double safe than double sorrow, I suppose.
It would be interesting to see what options Honda has taken with the Modulo 17in wheels.
Better be double safe than double sorrow, I suppose.
It would be interesting to see what options Honda has taken with the Modulo 17in wheels.
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