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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by KeithD
If you cant see a car in the daylight with its lights off please do the populous a favor and surrender your license.
I keep saying this, and no one listens -- go watch traffic on a road with good sightlines for a while. You'll feel pretty silly afterwards for having made such an easily-disproven assertion on this forum.

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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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As you get further north, the angle at which the sun hits the earth, screws up how you see objects. Try living up here, middle of winter, and the sun casts HUGE shadows on everything at 1 in the afternoon.

daytime running lights were introduced because of the lack of sunlight, and the lack of "good" sunlight as you get further north.

People in Florida probably would NOT benefit from DRL's, but I bet half the USA *could* benefit from them.
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 11:12 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by PedalFaster
[B]I keep saying this, and no one listens -- go watch traffic on a road with good sightlines for a while.
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by koala
As you get further north, the angle at which the sun hits the earth, screws up how you see objects. Try living up here, middle of winter, and the sun casts HUGE shadows on everything at 1 in the afternoon.

daytime running lights were introduced because of the lack of sunlight, and the lack of "good" sunlight as you get further north.

People in Florida probably would NOT benefit from DRL's, but I bet half the USA *could* benefit from them.
Actually I've driven all over the US and there are some places I could agree with that, but I think its more like 10% of the US. The bigger issue is those 10% should exercise their common sense and not force some new regulation on us 90% who dont need them.
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by quick_lude
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Can you back that up regarding the third brake light?
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by enlightenment
[B]lanbrown, sorry but I do not agree with your logic of people getting used to them and not being able to see them.
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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I can think of two reasons off the top of my head as to why bikers get hit:

1) they are small objects and hard to see, but their lights do help.

2) they often ride in people's blind spots.

Bikers are a good example of DRL's. They have them so drivers can see them better, but if they're in your blind spot you will not be able to see the them. This of course can be remedied by drivers checking their mirrors often and knowing their surroundings, but the average American driver is too lazy to do this. I do understand that if we all have DRL's it may be more dangerous for bikers but bikers should also exhibit some common sense too when they drive and they should know that they are hard to see. Perhaps having a different lighting pattern and color temp would help people recognize them out of a crowd of DRL's.
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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lanbrown, as has been the case on other threads, you're willfully or otherwise misunderstanding what I and other people have been saying; I'm not going to bother trying to explain further.

KeithD, while I'm impressed with your magic eyes which apparently do not need light in order to see, I submit that those of use without magic eyes would still benefit from having lights.

Steve
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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Yes, magic eyes... Pedalfaster...

Read the post. I said in some parts of the US, especially in the Fall/Winter this is true. These are the areas like Seattle (closer to Canada), which is where you live.
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 03:45 PM
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KeithD is correct - the European studies on the CHMSL paralleled Canada's experience. The Northern latitiudes seem to benefit most, as they are in dawn/dusk longer. CHMSL's do not much benefit at night.
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