Want steering feel?
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Im on the fence myself, I mean it couldn’t hurt to try it and see how it changes for shits and giggles. I just don’t have any complaints with my steering feel as is with what’s been done to the car. I get resistance when I turn the wheel at speed and I can feel the tires lose grip, not sure what else I need, at the potential sacrifice of forcing myself into another upper body workout after I leave the gym parking lot. Ive got a smaller 330mm steering wheel so it would be extra fun im sure 
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I know this thread is old but i just wanted to say:
If you want a truly unassisted feel without replacing the steering rack completely, you would have to take the steering rack out and remove the motor components to get rid of that extra resistance from the unpowered motor. From what i understand of the EPS in the S2k, the assist drops away at driving speeds beyond 30mph or somewhere around there, not as in the power steering motor turns off completely, but as in it becomes a more or less passive system that allows the forces to go through the steering system as if the motor wasn't there. It can't do that when it's not working at all. So realistically, what you get by simply pulling the fuse isn't going to be like a car without power steering, it's going to be like a car with a dead motor adding resistance to the steering.
I've tracked cars that had fully manual steering systems that feel almost identical to the S2k. If you want more steering feel, a better thing to do would be to get aftermarket suspension with a wider adjustment for the caster, and just use more caster. My car has 5.8 degrees of caster and there's room for more, but even where it is now i get plenty of feel and the self aligning torque behaves just like a car without power steering, you can easily feel the car losing traction and feel which direction the car is actually traveling (slip angle) through the steering. I would imagine if you had the added resistance from the unpowered motor, you wouldn't actually be able to feel the self aligning torque properly.
So, in my opinion, either get a proper manual steering setup, or just leave it alone, since pulling the fuse isn't going to give you more feel, just more resistance, which probably just masks the actual feel of the SAT.
If you want a truly unassisted feel without replacing the steering rack completely, you would have to take the steering rack out and remove the motor components to get rid of that extra resistance from the unpowered motor. From what i understand of the EPS in the S2k, the assist drops away at driving speeds beyond 30mph or somewhere around there, not as in the power steering motor turns off completely, but as in it becomes a more or less passive system that allows the forces to go through the steering system as if the motor wasn't there. It can't do that when it's not working at all. So realistically, what you get by simply pulling the fuse isn't going to be like a car without power steering, it's going to be like a car with a dead motor adding resistance to the steering.
I've tracked cars that had fully manual steering systems that feel almost identical to the S2k. If you want more steering feel, a better thing to do would be to get aftermarket suspension with a wider adjustment for the caster, and just use more caster. My car has 5.8 degrees of caster and there's room for more, but even where it is now i get plenty of feel and the self aligning torque behaves just like a car without power steering, you can easily feel the car losing traction and feel which direction the car is actually traveling (slip angle) through the steering. I would imagine if you had the added resistance from the unpowered motor, you wouldn't actually be able to feel the self aligning torque properly.
So, in my opinion, either get a proper manual steering setup, or just leave it alone, since pulling the fuse isn't going to give you more feel, just more resistance, which probably just masks the actual feel of the SAT.
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From: Illnoise. WAY downtown, jerky.
I know this thread is old but i just wanted to say:
If you want a truly unassisted feel without replacing the steering rack completely, you would have to take the steering rack out and remove the motor components to get rid of that extra resistance from the unpowered motor. From what i understand of the EPS in the S2k, the assist drops away at driving speeds beyond 30mph or somewhere around there, not as in the power steering motor turns off completely, but as in it becomes a more or less passive system that allows the forces to go through the steering system as if the motor wasn't there. It can't do that when it's not working at all. So realistically, what you get by simply pulling the fuse isn't going to be like a car without power steering, it's going to be like a car with a dead motor adding resistance to the steering.
I've tracked cars that had fully manual steering systems that feel almost identical to the S2k. If you want more steering feel, a better thing to do would be to get aftermarket suspension with a wider adjustment for the caster, and just use more caster. My car has 5.8 degrees of caster and there's room for more, but even where it is now i get plenty of feel and the self aligning torque behaves just like a car without power steering, you can easily feel the car losing traction and feel which direction the car is actually traveling (slip angle) through the steering. I would imagine if you had the added resistance from the unpowered motor, you wouldn't actually be able to feel the self aligning torque properly.
So, in my opinion, either get a proper manual steering setup, or just leave it alone, since pulling the fuse isn't going to give you more feel, just more resistance, which probably just masks the actual feel of the SAT.
If you want a truly unassisted feel without replacing the steering rack completely, you would have to take the steering rack out and remove the motor components to get rid of that extra resistance from the unpowered motor. From what i understand of the EPS in the S2k, the assist drops away at driving speeds beyond 30mph or somewhere around there, not as in the power steering motor turns off completely, but as in it becomes a more or less passive system that allows the forces to go through the steering system as if the motor wasn't there. It can't do that when it's not working at all. So realistically, what you get by simply pulling the fuse isn't going to be like a car without power steering, it's going to be like a car with a dead motor adding resistance to the steering.
I've tracked cars that had fully manual steering systems that feel almost identical to the S2k. If you want more steering feel, a better thing to do would be to get aftermarket suspension with a wider adjustment for the caster, and just use more caster. My car has 5.8 degrees of caster and there's room for more, but even where it is now i get plenty of feel and the self aligning torque behaves just like a car without power steering, you can easily feel the car losing traction and feel which direction the car is actually traveling (slip angle) through the steering. I would imagine if you had the added resistance from the unpowered motor, you wouldn't actually be able to feel the self aligning torque properly.
So, in my opinion, either get a proper manual steering setup, or just leave it alone, since pulling the fuse isn't going to give you more feel, just more resistance, which probably just masks the actual feel of the SAT.
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From: City of Baked Beans
I know this thread is old but i just wanted to say:
If you want a truly unassisted feel without replacing the steering rack completely, you would have to take the steering rack out and remove the motor components to get rid of that extra resistance from the unpowered motor. From what i understand of the EPS in the S2k, the assist drops away at driving speeds beyond 30mph or somewhere around there, not as in the power steering motor turns off completely, but as in it becomes a more or less passive system that allows the forces to go through the steering system as if the motor wasn't there. It can't do that when it's not working at all. So realistically, what you get by simply pulling the fuse isn't going to be like a car without power steering, it's going to be like a car with a dead motor adding resistance to the steering.
I've tracked cars that had fully manual steering systems that feel almost identical to the S2k. If you want more steering feel, a better thing to do would be to get aftermarket suspension with a wider adjustment for the caster, and just use more caster. My car has 5.8 degrees of caster and there's room for more, but even where it is now i get plenty of feel and the self aligning torque behaves just like a car without power steering, you can easily feel the car losing traction and feel which direction the car is actually traveling (slip angle) through the steering. I would imagine if you had the added resistance from the unpowered motor, you wouldn't actually be able to feel the self aligning torque properly.
So, in my opinion, either get a proper manual steering setup, or just leave it alone, since pulling the fuse isn't going to give you more feel, just more resistance, which probably just masks the actual feel of the SAT.
If you want a truly unassisted feel without replacing the steering rack completely, you would have to take the steering rack out and remove the motor components to get rid of that extra resistance from the unpowered motor. From what i understand of the EPS in the S2k, the assist drops away at driving speeds beyond 30mph or somewhere around there, not as in the power steering motor turns off completely, but as in it becomes a more or less passive system that allows the forces to go through the steering system as if the motor wasn't there. It can't do that when it's not working at all. So realistically, what you get by simply pulling the fuse isn't going to be like a car without power steering, it's going to be like a car with a dead motor adding resistance to the steering.
I've tracked cars that had fully manual steering systems that feel almost identical to the S2k. If you want more steering feel, a better thing to do would be to get aftermarket suspension with a wider adjustment for the caster, and just use more caster. My car has 5.8 degrees of caster and there's room for more, but even where it is now i get plenty of feel and the self aligning torque behaves just like a car without power steering, you can easily feel the car losing traction and feel which direction the car is actually traveling (slip angle) through the steering. I would imagine if you had the added resistance from the unpowered motor, you wouldn't actually be able to feel the self aligning torque properly.
So, in my opinion, either get a proper manual steering setup, or just leave it alone, since pulling the fuse isn't going to give you more feel, just more resistance, which probably just masks the actual feel of the SAT.
Not sure what all the fuss is about lack of steering feel. Along with other suspension mods and a tailored alignment you'll be able to obtain the steering feel you desire. I maxed out my caster on my alignment many years ago, haven't looked back since. Steering input is where I like it to be.
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