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Old 07-04-2006, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tpc01x,Jul 4 2006, 08:55 AM
I think the reason honda overcharged for the nsx is because they can.

Out of all the japanese car manufacturers, Honda is the ONLY one that produces an EXOTIC. Not only that, they have been hand-built for the longest time, there one of the best handling cars stock ever, plus its MR, and its just damn beautiful.

Theres always going to be a faster/lighter/better handling car; etc.....

Sometimes power isn't everything man. Its more about having something that nobody else has and the beauty of the car.
I can see that but if you are going to make a super car it must go like one otherwise it will only sell at a few hundred units a year.

When the NSX first came out it was mind blowing but they left it alone and it slowly rotted away. Power and performance isnt everything but the NSX didnt have any luxury features either so what did it have? They still came equppied with a tape deck in 01. It never had a navi option nor bluetooth or fancy seats. The interior feels very dated.

The NSX is like the great high school quarter back but 16 years later still telling stories about how good he was while he's flipping burgers. In its prime only a few cars from Japan could run with it.

Its still a good looking car and a great value used. But its definitely not worth the 89k asking price. Thats why the new ones sold at over 10 grand discounts. I still want to pick one up someday just because it was a child hood icon car.
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+good point.
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One thing I do want to predict is that in a few years or so the NSX will become like the supra is now. Initially Toyota didn't sell as many as they wanted, and through the years they were generally pretty easy to find.

It will still be a car that retains its value with age. I know a guy that just sold a 97' quicksilver tt supra (stock), he got rougly 60k for it, granted it was one of the cleanest ones ever and never modified, but the fact remains that it sold for a crazy price. And if you try to find a supra nowadays GOOD LUCK, it won't happen, unless you have a good amount of money.
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How about ditching all the pannels all together? just driving a skeleton. Now thats some weight savings.
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First I would like to point out that Honda is supposed to be updating the NSX with a shit-ton of power for the new model, in which case it should be running with Ferrarris and such.

Second, Supras were not very expensive at all until The Fast and the Furious (original) came out -- and then they tripled in price. Before that Supras were not nearly as well known as they are now, and once every kid in America found out that they could drop $1k in and run 12s the price skyrocketed. On the other hand the NSX is a car that pretty much every kid grew up knowing, it is a Japanese "exotic" and not very similar at all to the Supra in terms of design, or more importantly, marketplace.

Third, ironically, deals with the original topic of the post. I for one love the idea of an all-aluminum S2000 because it would be a more "back-to-basics" roadster, which is one of the reasons I bought the car in the first place. If Honda made a stripped version (like the Evo MR) with aluminum body panels I think it would be incredibly popular with weekend racers. Mmmm, 10:1 power ratio from the factory....
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Originally Posted by SteveS2K33,Jul 3 2006, 09:18 PM
Then we would hear something different coming from the trees!
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Something I find interesting:

C6 Z06 - 3132 lbs
'97 NSX-T - 3164 lbs
C6 Coupe - 3179 lbs
C6 Vert - 3199 lbs
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Originally Posted by Elistan,Jul 5 2006, 08:02 AM
Something I find interesting:

C6 Z06 - 3132 lbs
'97 NSX-T - 3164 lbs
C6 Coupe - 3179 lbs
C6 Vert - 3199 lbs
The C6 Z06 has carbon fiber panels and a balsa wood floor. The chassis is aluminum andt he engine block is a combination of aluminum and magnesium. Surprisingly it only weighs within 100 lbs more than a f22c.
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Originally Posted by AusS2000,Jul 3 2006, 08:53 PM
Hmm, says 10 lbs for the set. Do you know how much the OEM ones weigh?
Old 07-06-2006, 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Ronin2k,Jul 5 2006, 07:56 PM
andt he engine block is a combination of aluminum and magnesium. Surprisingly it only weighs within 100 lbs more than a f22c.
The engine cradle is Magnesium, not the block.


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