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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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Drove both and the 9K redline was exciting, but the '04 engine is more tractable, and the VTEC is on the same number of rpms - in the "03 and earlier it came on at 7000 - 9000. With the new car it is 6000-8000. The powerbands are different and the '04 engine has dynoed at more HP, and more torque than advertised.

Both are close to being equally quick - just a little more relaxed driving style in the '04 to get same every day performance as in '03 and earlier. As mentioned earlier, you can feel power come on at 3000 RPM - 6000 RPM - and then hang on for the VTEC - like a second engine kicks in.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ThePhantom,Sep 23 2004, 12:07 PM
Drove both and the 9K redline was exciting, but the '04 engine is more tractable, and the VTEC is on the same number of rpms - in the "03 and earlier it came on at 7000 - 9000. With the new car it is 6000-8000. The powerbands are different and the '04 engine has dynoed at more HP, and more torque than advertised.
All cars are different. For the earlier models, several people have reported to feel VTEC kick in right at 6000rpms, while others say it can be felt at 6500-7000rpms. For myself, I definitely can feel it right when the RPMs pass 6000.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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we have these threads every week
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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just wanted to tell u
2.0 liter engines still are all over the place in 04 except in america market
which i can explain people still prefer the 9000 rpm besides americans who always complain about torque on F20C

so the question is why wouldnt they put F22C into S2000 in other country???
all i can come up with is that people likes f20c better still except american
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by iwant2byS2k,Sep 23 2004, 11:38 AM
just wanted to tell u
2.0 liter engines still are all over the place in 04 except in america market
which i can explain people still prefer the 9000 rpm besides americans who always complain about torque on F20C

so the question is why wouldnt they put F22C into S2000 in other country???
all i can come up with is that people likes f20c better still except american
yup the key word is "prefer"
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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Going from an '00 to an '04, I definitely would have preferred they kept the older engine.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sparta,Sep 23 2004, 09:01 AM
The 2004 has a 7800 rpm redline, right? But vtech still comes on only at 6k? If that's so, it means you use less vtech if you're driving a 2004, as compared with a pre 2004, with an 8900 rpm redline... am I making sense?

The 2004 may drive as fast overall, but there's less time spent in that your-back-pushed-against-the-seat 'zone'.

Any comments from people who have experienced both?
i dont know, i've never driven a phone before

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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverKnight,Sep 23 2004, 01:33 PM
we have these threads every week
I could have sworn this was the first one!
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by iwant2byS2k,Sep 23 2004, 02:38 PM
just wanted to tell u
2.0 liter engines still are all over the place in 04 except in america market
which i can explain people still prefer the 9000 rpm besides americans who always complain about torque on F20C

so the question is why wouldnt they put F22C into S2000 in other country???
all i can come up with is that people likes f20c better still except american
is that a rhetorical question?
the reason is because of tax based on cylinders.
not only americans prefer torque. last CAR(european) magazine comparo complained about it. the boxster S was the winner.
me, i like the 2.0 and the 9k for the novelty. defined the car i think but i dont mind the extra punch in daily driving.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverKnight,Sep 23 2004, 11:33 AM
we have these threads every week
yeah but they're entertaining ( :
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