Why does high RPM matter?
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Originally Posted by MulderATO,Feb 27 2006, 10:17 AM
Not to be confused with an ap1 vs. ap2 thing....
But...
When you hear the engine revving through its last few hundred RPM on its way to 9 grand, its a thrilling sensation because you feel as though you are literaly on the edge of total distruction; that if this thing goes now, its going to go big......... then you shift and do it again
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But...
When you hear the engine revving through its last few hundred RPM on its way to 9 grand, its a thrilling sensation because you feel as though you are literaly on the edge of total distruction; that if this thing goes now, its going to go big......... then you shift and do it again
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Originally Posted by ruexp67,Feb 27 2006, 10:17 PM
Now, I am beginning to think that we (specifically you and I) have been arguing semantics the whole time.
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A motor that makes 240 HP but only revs to 5,000RPM fitted to the S2000 would (Assuming a similar torque curve) get the car down the 1/4mi in the same time, and at the same speed as the F20C.
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin S2k,Feb 28 2006, 10:00 AM
there would also have to be a dramatic change in gearing, otherwise this would not be true.
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Originally Posted by ruexp67,Feb 27 2006, 08:17 AM
The 9,000 RPM redline is pretty unique, espcially in a conventional motor (i.e. non-rotory.) If the car had been offered with 8,000RPM from the beginning, I don't think it would have garnered as much attention as it was almost a novelty that it spun so high. To me, the 9,000rpm redline is just part of the character of the car, it's one of the things that makes it unique and special.
Of course, Z06s are nice too.
One of the unique features of the Corvette is the all-fiberglass body. If they went to a steel body it wouldn't be as unique anymore. It is a defining characteristic of the car. Just like the aluminum body on the NSX.
Lots of cars have defining characteristics, and some are cooler than others, and some are cooler to me than they are to someone else. Is 9,000RPM necessiary? No. Is it cool, HELL YES!
Even if the F22C were MUCH faster, I would still prefer the F20C.
Of course, Z06s are nice too.
One of the unique features of the Corvette is the all-fiberglass body. If they went to a steel body it wouldn't be as unique anymore. It is a defining characteristic of the car. Just like the aluminum body on the NSX.Lots of cars have defining characteristics, and some are cooler than others, and some are cooler to me than they are to someone else. Is 9,000RPM necessiary? No. Is it cool, HELL YES!
Even if the F22C were MUCH faster, I would still prefer the F20C.
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Originally Posted by ruexp67,Feb 28 2006, 07:35 AM
Well, I think dramatic is a bit of an overstatement, but yes a gearing change to make you hit the same speeds at the tops of each gear and you would turn in identical times.
Yes, 9000RPMs is important due to the nature of this motor.
Yes, most modern motors needs as much RPMs as possible to make as much power as possible.
Yes, a lower redline can be just as quick, thru proper gearing, as long as power/tq curves are the relatively the same under that curve.
Yes, I like 9000
Yes, it was used as a marketing tool as well.
FWIW, I picked an 02 vs an 04 simply b/c of the redline, so I'm abit of a fanboy to the 9000RPMs limit, but...I still think it was used more as a marketing tool b/c the car (with the F22C) can still be just as quick.
BTW, the comparison between the Z06 vs an S2k should be irrelevant. 405hp vs 240hp is like comparing peanuts to a watermelon!
Best comparison IMO is the F20C vs F22C since I'm trying to show that even w/ a reduced redline, the F22C doesn't perform poorly at all.
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I compared the Z06 to the S2k simply to show the difference in speed per gear, so some of you guys would actually get what I am saying. (For those that say "because of my 9000rpm so I did not have to shift as much.") - I hear that crap all the time. As if the S2K owner is implying that his gears are longer and he can go faster in each one.-- The guy in the Z06 is going faster because of his power, and just because he has a 6500 rpm redline does not mean he has less speed per gear.