Winter Driving
Originally Posted by xviper,May 24 2005, 08:21 PM
OK, I can't stand it anymore.
Just came out of my 5th winter of daily driving this car through some of the worst snow/ice conditions imaginable for an urban environment. I've never gotten stuck and the only rust I've got is from the damn holes I drilled into the car myself. I've never wished I had an AWD. In fact, guys around here think their AWDs are so invincible, they don't even bother putting on snow tires or even all season radials. They think they can get by with their fancy Dan summer performance tires. You should see the dipshit looks on their faces when I outdrag them across a snow/ice/slush filled intersection. They just sit there spinning all 4 tires and going sideways. And don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. I owned one the highest performance AWD sports cars there was - TT Stealth. Drove it one winter with the stock tires. What a useless POS. Put aggressive snow tires on it and it was like on rails.
Chaz, LM-22s are considered "performance" snow tires. A couple of guys here have been running them for several winters. They get by but they do realize the limitations of those tires. To really endure a true winter, you need the more aggressive WS-50 series. With these, you'd think you had gravel under your tires.
Why buy a convertible? Not everyone who owns an S2000 wanted a convertible. We just wanted an S2000. It just happened to be a convertible and we bought it anyway. It's a free country, right?
Rock chips? That's what 3M film is for. This is just part of "winterizing" an S2000. So is frequent washing. That's simply taking responsibility for what you do with the car. Why would anyone expect to do nothing different to their high performance sports cars when winter comes?
Light weight RWD cars for winter? I'll say it again .............. What do you suppose people of this nation in the snow belt did before Chrysler mass produced FWD cars for the N. American market? Did everyone just stay home when the snow fell? No, they "winterized" their cars and just kept driving. Remember MGs, Triumphs, Pintos, Vegas? You think they all stayed home when it snowed? We've had so many generations of people now who have only driven FWD cars, that they think "winter" and RWD don't mix. PUULLEASE!
Too much power in a RWD car for winter duty? I guess you don't remember the days of the "muscle" cars like the Mustang, Charger, Cuda, Camaro, etc. All those were big engined, big HP cars and people drove those all winter. PLUS, those cars were all front heavy. At least the S2000 has perfect weight balance.
Why would you want to drive an "expensive", nice car like an S2000 through the winter? Have noticed how much Excursions, MB MLs, Hummers, 4-Runners, Land Rovers, etc cost these days. People buy them for driving in the winter around here. Oh yeah, these are the ones we see stuck in the ditches most of the time.
Come on guys! Store the damn thing because you want to keep it nice and because it's your pride and joy but don't say you can't drive the thing because it's RWD, too expensive, too nice, too light, a convertible ........... yada, yada, yada. That's just being uninformed. It's just winter and an S2000 is still a Honda.
Go here to see us drag racing and playing in the snow:
http://forums.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=156779
(Time to take my meds.
)
Just came out of my 5th winter of daily driving this car through some of the worst snow/ice conditions imaginable for an urban environment. I've never gotten stuck and the only rust I've got is from the damn holes I drilled into the car myself. I've never wished I had an AWD. In fact, guys around here think their AWDs are so invincible, they don't even bother putting on snow tires or even all season radials. They think they can get by with their fancy Dan summer performance tires. You should see the dipshit looks on their faces when I outdrag them across a snow/ice/slush filled intersection. They just sit there spinning all 4 tires and going sideways. And don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. I owned one the highest performance AWD sports cars there was - TT Stealth. Drove it one winter with the stock tires. What a useless POS. Put aggressive snow tires on it and it was like on rails.
Chaz, LM-22s are considered "performance" snow tires. A couple of guys here have been running them for several winters. They get by but they do realize the limitations of those tires. To really endure a true winter, you need the more aggressive WS-50 series. With these, you'd think you had gravel under your tires.
Why buy a convertible? Not everyone who owns an S2000 wanted a convertible. We just wanted an S2000. It just happened to be a convertible and we bought it anyway. It's a free country, right?
Rock chips? That's what 3M film is for. This is just part of "winterizing" an S2000. So is frequent washing. That's simply taking responsibility for what you do with the car. Why would anyone expect to do nothing different to their high performance sports cars when winter comes?
Light weight RWD cars for winter? I'll say it again .............. What do you suppose people of this nation in the snow belt did before Chrysler mass produced FWD cars for the N. American market? Did everyone just stay home when the snow fell? No, they "winterized" their cars and just kept driving. Remember MGs, Triumphs, Pintos, Vegas? You think they all stayed home when it snowed? We've had so many generations of people now who have only driven FWD cars, that they think "winter" and RWD don't mix. PUULLEASE!
Too much power in a RWD car for winter duty? I guess you don't remember the days of the "muscle" cars like the Mustang, Charger, Cuda, Camaro, etc. All those were big engined, big HP cars and people drove those all winter. PLUS, those cars were all front heavy. At least the S2000 has perfect weight balance.
Why would you want to drive an "expensive", nice car like an S2000 through the winter? Have noticed how much Excursions, MB MLs, Hummers, 4-Runners, Land Rovers, etc cost these days. People buy them for driving in the winter around here. Oh yeah, these are the ones we see stuck in the ditches most of the time.
Come on guys! Store the damn thing because you want to keep it nice and because it's your pride and joy but don't say you can't drive the thing because it's RWD, too expensive, too nice, too light, a convertible ........... yada, yada, yada. That's just being uninformed. It's just winter and an S2000 is still a Honda.
Go here to see us drag racing and playing in the snow:
http://forums.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=156779
(Time to take my meds.
)
Enjoy your car year round. With the right tires you can drive in the snow. Just be gentle with the shifting, steering, braking and gas. Use your head and you will be fine.
Oh man - just drove the RX-8. Not comparable...felt like you had to wind that engine up too much to enjoy it...S2k felt better along the revs. It did sound nice at about 8500 rpm. Interior materials quality in the RX left much to be desired as well. I was impressed with its ability to soak up road irregularities while keeping reasonable handling intact though. All I have left to drive is that G35 now.
Originally Posted by byunwong,May 24 2005, 11:27 AM
I'm looking into picking up an S2000 as a daily driver for northeast Ohio. I know the car is a powerful, RWD sports car...but I was wondering if any of you have experience driving it in snow. I'd definately be putting snow tires on it. I was contemplating a G35 as well - it's a little heavier, possibly a bit better in the winter. Any feedback would be most appreciated. Thanks.
Originally Posted by xviper,May 27 2005, 06:27 PM
I was in a "mood". 

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