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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Iniamyen
I just thought I would add this to qualify my worry as a new owner of an S2000 not wanting to mess things up. Here's what the owner's manual says about the jacking points:



Based on this image, I would probably do exactly what the OP did, had I not learned from his mistake. I haven't yet invested in a service manual, perhaps the incomplete owner's manual combined with the mix of good and bad information online is evidence that I need to.
Exactly. That's why I had folks point to the correct spot to me in person. See my photo above with the arrow. The four side jack points (two per side) are these folded metal tabs. They exaggerated them in your illustration to point out the tabs.
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Orjinal
Originally Posted by 34witt' timestamp='1357841149' post='22258386
Not everyone is a mechanic or cares enough to learn. How many people driving know where to jack a car up? I would guess 5/10. So they all need to buy bikes too?
You're making it sound like jacking up a car is a rocket science.

Its easy to do, and easy to do wrong if you're not careful. People need to realize they are leveraging hundreds if not thousands of pounds on a single point, and if that point is not reinforced, you will bend or break something.

There are specific points to jack a car at, and there are other hard points that can support the weight. I believe knowing and using both are fine, but beyond knowing where the points are, you need to know how to interact with them, and how the jacking equipment will interact with them.

I jack my car at the jack points, and rest the car on jack stands that fit up with the frame rails. I don't jack from a rail because there is nothing to hold the shoe in place. I place my stands on the rails where there are no soft points that will crush with weight. etc...

OP, it could always be worse...

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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 07:19 AM
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I don't think this has been mentioned but you can change your oil without jacking up the car. Just get a low profile oil catch pan to put under the car when you are doing oil changes and open the drain valve from the top rather than crawling underneath your car. No jacking required. It might just work for me because I have long lanky arms but it's worth a shot.
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbond413
I don't think this has been mentioned but you can change your oil without jacking up the car. Just get a low profile oil catch pan to put under the car when you are doing oil changes and open the drain valve from the top rather than crawling underneath your car. No jacking required. It might just work for me because I have long lanky arms but it's worth a shot.
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This is how I've been changing my oil on the S2000 for a couple years now. The trickiest part is finding a low profile pan that can hold 5+ quarts... and then removing it from underneath the car without making a mess.
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 08:08 AM
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reminds me I've been meaning to buy some of those low profile race ramps.
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by spets
That's the fender, it can be taken off and straightened out.

I did the same thing to mine once, looked much worse.

The proper jack point is further back, you can see it in the second to last picture, with the metal tab that is bent over. Common mistake
Anyone familiar with paintless dent repair and/or access points know if a PDR guy could fix this for the OP or does the fender have to come off?
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by //steve\\
reminds me I've been meaning to buy some of those low profile race ramps.
Ditto. I'm looking for them as well but haven't found anything under a hundred bucks or so.
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by NH_s2k_Guy
Originally Posted by spets' timestamp='1357767209' post='22256559
That's the fender, it can be taken off and straightened out.

I did the same thing to mine once, looked much worse.

The proper jack point is further back, you can see it in the second to last picture, with the metal tab that is bent over. Common mistake
Anyone familiar with paintless dent repair and/or access points know if a PDR guy could fix this for the OP or does the fender have to come off?
With the fender liner removed there is plenty of access to the top of the dent, but I'm not sure if that's enough for a PDR guy(depending on what type of tools they use). Worst case he can use a heat gun and hammer it down himself, slowly and carefully of course.
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by g0g3tt4
Who the hell can drive up a ramp? My car isn't even that low and I have to stack 2x4's in a staggered fashion.
lol i use 1x2's
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Old Jan 11, 2013 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sse2k
Originally Posted by //steve\\' timestamp='1357924107' post='22260583
reminds me I've been meaning to buy some of those low profile race ramps.
Ditto. I'm looking for them as well but haven't found anything under a hundred bucks or so.
If you can't jack up a car the usual way, money should be no object. And when you do find them and cough up the money to buy them, I'm sure you'll do just fine with them. On the other hand, I've seen guys drive off ramps or even right over them. Then they have a couple of ramps mushed under the sides of the car. If you have trouble with clutch control, you're gonna love driving up ramps.

And jacking the car up on the frame rails? Unless you have a low profile jack, a standard floor jack won't even reach the frame rails. A standard floor jack will barely reach the rear diff jacking point. You won't have a prayer reaching the front one. Oh but wait, you're gonna tell me you drive the car up on pieces of lumber first, right? Or maybe start lifting it with the scissors jack? So, you're not really jacking the car up directly, are you? You're doing a preliminary manipulation first, aren't you? May as well just figure out where the "real" jacking points are.
And if your car is lowered? It's not gonna be a simple jacking. You're gonna conduct extra steps or you'll need to buy different equipment.
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