[QUOTE]Originally posted by ITR_Gary
[B]Slightly off topic but springs won't determine whether or not a car will rub, struts do that.

 

And there you have the definition of misnomer

 

Errr. What would you call them if not struts? Not wanting to sound adversarial but they're struts by every definition of struts I am familar with. Would you rather call them dampers because that would also be true.

Or is my leg being pulled? It's so hard to tell online!

 

Since the S2000 has a double wishbone suspension, it has "shocks". Any suspension that has upper and lower lateral supports has "shocks".

My post was nit picky, but I generally disagree with your whole statement. A car with improperly sized (offsets) wheels will rub if it is not supported "just so". This can be springs, shocks, whatever, but the main issue is the offset of the wheels.

If you put KG/MM race springs on the OEM shocks, with aftermarket wheels, you will probably have some rubbing.

 

I'm just being a dipsh*t so you can ignore me. I know what you mean about not being able to tell online. In any case, it may be a common myth but not a misnomer. To label it as a misnomer is... a misnomer. Sorry if that was annoying.
Ares

 

Ok, Ares, you're right, I suck. I just looked it up and a misnomer is the use of an incorrect name or designation. Let's go with the term misconception while I beg the vocabulary gods to forgive me. I think that'll satisfy everyone here...

However, gernby, I disagree. Any damper which has a spring mounted around it, is commonly termed a strut (eg, S2000 Double wishbone suspension or any car with McPherson Struts). Any damper which has a spring mounted elsewhere is commonly termed a shock (eg leaf springs on trucks, coil springs on a live-axle.)

That being said, the discussion here, as far as I'm concerned, has to do with this line

"the car used to be lowered with KG/MM race springs, that in and of itself, created about 3 degrees of neg camber. i had to remove them b/c i was pretty sure that 265's would rub."

My point being that the tyres will rub regardless of the springs that are in there because the spring has nothing to do with the suspension's bottoming point (unless coil binding is a factor in which case those springs shouldn't even be sold for this car.) In the S2000's case, the bottoming point is determined by the strut and the bump stop. If the car were assembled without springs in it at all it would sit at the lowest point of suspension travel, the rims will not rub, if different rims are installed, they will either fit or they won't and the spring has absoloutely nothing to do with it.

I'm guessing that I didn't clarify my point enough and my meaning was misconstrued. Hopefully this clears things up!