another s2000 cylinder 4 problem.
so the jist of it is; i bought this car off the internet sight unseen. (got a good deal) car arrives and does not start. take it to honda and they say there is no compression. they pour some oil down the plug holes in to the clyinders and get SOME compression. they soon after find there is a slab of aluminum melted on to the cyl 4 piston.
now the question is what should i do/ what is it going to take to fix this problem.
the engine/ tranny is almost out of the car (done by me) and should be out tomorow. just need to reposition the lifting points. i will take the head off and try to find out where the aluminum is melted from.
this cyl 4 seems to be a problem for alot of us s2000'ers. so i am sure some one has seen or heard of something like this.
will i need a new engine or cani repair this one?
thank you for your comments/ help.
i will keep you all up to date on what is happening with the car.
-keegan
now the question is what should i do/ what is it going to take to fix this problem.
the engine/ tranny is almost out of the car (done by me) and should be out tomorow. just need to reposition the lifting points. i will take the head off and try to find out where the aluminum is melted from.
this cyl 4 seems to be a problem for alot of us s2000'ers. so i am sure some one has seen or heard of something like this.
will i need a new engine or cani repair this one?
thank you for your comments/ help.
i will keep you all up to date on what is happening with the car.
-keegan
The cylinder #4 problem mainly has to do with a scuffed bore. If you have melted bits of aluminum in your #4 cylinder a scuffed bore is the least of your worries. Sounds like it dropped a valve.
Being that the history/driving record of the car is completely unknown I'd vote that you get a used engine in good shape and swap the whole thing in place.
if you can locate an AP2 engine.
Being that the history/driving record of the car is completely unknown I'd vote that you get a used engine in good shape and swap the whole thing in place.
if you can locate an AP2 engine.
Ever rebuilt an engine? If not here's your chance to learn how.. It would be cheaper than buying a new engine but if you're not to confident with your engine building capabilities then it would be much easier to just swap in a used f20 or f22. You could have the head inspected and rebuilt if it has issues and just buy a new bottom end from honda for about 2500 i believe. There's no simple fix when the engine's had metal floating around it it..
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Most #4 failures were traced to a lack of oil flow in that area of the engine. The key to search on S2Ki.com is "banjo bolt". The bolt was opened to increse flow in that area. My recollection is that there is a Honda Service Bulletin but it only applied to Europe. Hondas logic was the root of the problem was oil starvation at very high speed (i.e. 100+ MPH). As folks in North America can't legally drive this fast Honda did not include NA vehicles in the bulletin. Europe on the other hand is a different story with the Autobahn and all. Canada is in the "Noth American Market" and so the Service Bulletin would not apply. In short the car was abused. Usually the most expensive damage is to the cylinder walls neccesitatingreplaing the entire short block. In your case the damage is done. PM "Billman" he may know an approximate cost and what a short block swap will entail.
Sorry for your problem,
Utah
Sorry for your problem,
Utah
Utah S2K Posted on Mar 16 2007, 04:34 AM
Germany is the only Eurpean country (out of 27 countries) where, on certain parts, there is no speed limit on their Autobahn.
Speed limits in all the other European countries are simular to those in North America.
Recent political developments in Germany may get rid of this last "public high speed track" though.
Unfortunatly.
As folks in North America can't legally drive this fast Honda did not include NA vehicles in the bulletin. Europe on the other hand is a different story with the Autobahn and all.
Speed limits in all the other European countries are simular to those in North America.
Recent political developments in Germany may get rid of this last "public high speed track" though.
Unfortunatly.
yea i think thats bs...here's my theory on it
europe has a lot of wealthy ass people that love to drive fast...i highly doubt that these immensly wealthy individuals will let there friends the law makers put a speed limit on the autobahn.
for example....bill gates...richest person on the planet wanted to import the legendary porsche 959 to the united states...because of DOT emission laws it was stuck in customs for like 9 years or some shit...until bill gates lobbied congress and the DOT....they ended up modifying the DOT emission rules JUST SO BILL GATES(and someone else i forget) COULD IMPORT A SPORTSCAR....
i'll say it now and i'll say it again...I HIGHLY DOUBT the european aristocracy, which has more roots in government over there than the aristocracy in the usa has, will allow something so ridiculous to pass into law.
on the #4 cyclinder problem....like the other poster said its probably a scuffed bore and maybe combined with a dropped valve...if its the scuffed bore your gonna have to replace the short block...sorry...
europe has a lot of wealthy ass people that love to drive fast...i highly doubt that these immensly wealthy individuals will let there friends the law makers put a speed limit on the autobahn.
for example....bill gates...richest person on the planet wanted to import the legendary porsche 959 to the united states...because of DOT emission laws it was stuck in customs for like 9 years or some shit...until bill gates lobbied congress and the DOT....they ended up modifying the DOT emission rules JUST SO BILL GATES(and someone else i forget) COULD IMPORT A SPORTSCAR....
i'll say it now and i'll say it again...I HIGHLY DOUBT the european aristocracy, which has more roots in government over there than the aristocracy in the usa has, will allow something so ridiculous to pass into law.
on the #4 cyclinder problem....like the other poster said its probably a scuffed bore and maybe combined with a dropped valve...if its the scuffed bore your gonna have to replace the short block...sorry...
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