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Blown/seized engine with 70,xxx miles? (with pics)

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Old 02-19-2014, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Billman250
Its very simple. The intake force of the engine will suck water just like air.

And if there is a large enough amount of it (as in what accumulates in the lower elbow of the AEM v2) it will lock the engine due to hydraulic force.

At 2000 rpm start up speed, rest assured something will destruct.

Only takes a few tablespoons.

Reading all these horror scenarios makes me happier about getting K&N Intake instead....
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Originally Posted by miloking
Originally Posted by Billman250' timestamp='1392835321' post='23023504
Its very simple. The intake force of the engine will suck water just like air.

And if there is a large enough amount of it (as in what accumulates in the lower elbow of the AEM v2) it will lock the engine due to hydraulic force.

At 2000 rpm start up speed, rest assured something will destruct.

Only takes a few tablespoons.

Reading all these horror scenarios makes me happier about getting K&N Intake instead....
sucking in hot air isn't exactly ideal either.
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Thumb downs AEM
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Oh give me a break
Old 02-20-2014, 04:30 PM
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Something very similar happened to me literally last week

see here

https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/107...t__p__23016162

Basically about a pint of water accumulated in the lower arm of the CAI

Normally park the S2000 in a garage but lately been keeping it outside due to broken garage door.
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ok, im sitting here reading this and i havea injen intake almost the same as AEM. here in new york it rains alot. this has me worried now that this will happen to me. if this can happen to a injen intake
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Where the filter attaches to my CAI, the tubing tilts up. If yours also tips up I'd suspect it can given the right circumstances.
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no mines flat. so ton the AEM v2 the water sits in the intake itself? or where the filter is in the bumper?
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Water (or melting snow) channels down the fender/hood seam, through a hole the lines up directly with the intake filter in the bumper.

Plug the hole. It's right next to the VIN number on the passenger side fender.

This has been SAID to prevent this. I have not proven it myself but it makes sense.

Another safety device is a bypass valve. AEM makes one for their intake.

Another is a half round top shield to block water from dripping into the intake.

Take this seriously. The broken rod above (note the perfect rod bearing) is from Elroy303's car. He went for a drive on a clear night, and parked the car in his driveway. Overnight it snowed, only one inch. In the morning he hit the start button, and after 1-2 seconds it threw the rod through the block and oil down the driveway.

Another way to hydrolock a motor is OIL OVERFILL. One of my guys had to flatbed his car 900 miles back from the Dragon because of it.

He stated that he added half a quart to the motor without checking, ASSUMING he would have burnt it on the trip down. He was 3 Xs overfull. Went around a turn, the crankshaft smacks the oil and sends it airborn, where it gets sucked into the PCV and winds up in the cylinder. He broke a rod the same way.
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Originally Posted by blasphemy101
Originally Posted by Billman250' timestamp='1392639823' post='23019259
Hydrolock due to the aem v2, guaranteed.
Obviously, you have much more experience than I do, but I'd disagree and say you won't know the cause until you get the motor out and pulled apart.
I say guaranteed as I've seen it first hand and know what causes it. Just open the butterfly. If you see water, there's the answer.

Any car that sits (especially for weeks in the rain) with an AEM style intake has a very good chance of this happening.


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