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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Fellas,

We all know about the DIY threads on removing the delay valve, we all know honda put it in there to save the diff etc. from turning into a grenade, of course people with extra tq such as turbo cars like me and even N/A doing a quick shift see the issues.....

Now I'd love to keep the valve in for protection HOWEVER the delay is far too slow, a quick shift for a turbo car = the car slams the rev limiter instantly unless I let off for a second to let it hook up fully.

SO HOW ABOUT THIS IDEA!!!!! *****************************

Instead of removing it all together, is it possible to just open the orifice to a larger hole thus shortening the amount of delay the unit provides. This would provide protection against accidentally slipping off the clutch with wet shoes or just letting it out much too fast on accident. At the same time the ammount of delay could be cut by 50% or so and finally this part wouldn't plague us all.

I haven't had the part out to look it over well, is it possible to just drill the orifice that the oil goes through out a bit larger? I'm assuming it is an orifice that they're using to do this.

Thank you in advance, I think this could really be a large improvement to just removing the valve all together.

-Greg
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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does the 2000model ap1 s2k has clucth delay also?? thanks!!
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 06:33 AM
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BUMP.....

NEVER ANSWERED, and It's time I do this now, and I have 2 cars to do it on, my street car and a dedicated and fully caged track car.

-Greg
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 06:39 AM
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You could bore it out a little more i guess.... but if your running the stock ap2 flywheel, clutch, PP setup your still going to be slipping.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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Give it a shot...let us know how it turns out.

I think reducing the delay reduces the safety buffer...possibly to the point that it does no good at all over removing it entirely. The only way to know is to test.

The best solution for a high hp/tq s2k is to reinforce the diff and get rid of the CDV.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:27 AM
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with both comments.

My idea is just to speed up the delay valve but.... perhaps i'll speed it up too much on accident.

New clutch is on the way anyways as turbo+stock clutch PP = bad.

I just want to minimize this CDV except PERHAPS have it work just a little bit to avoid the accidental slip off the clutch pedal or something some day, who knows.

I'll see how it goes.
-Greg
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 03:52 PM
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Have you disassembled Johnny #5 and actually looked at it?

I doubt the flimsy little plastic POS will yield to any type of modification.
From what I could tell, the fluid pushes a spring which causes all our problems.

I have like 5 at home if you want me to post some hi-rez pix.
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:42 PM
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Let's start with this question - what clutch system do you have in now?

Stock PP, disc, flywheel?

What new system are you putting in?

aftermarket PP, disc, flywheel?

Why mess with the CDV until you've replaced the clutch system? Maybe that will solve your problems?

I've said it before, so I'll say it again, most people have no idea what they are doing when they remove the CDV, it just seems like an easy fix backed by a butt dyno.
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 04:49 AM
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Interesting idea....
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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[QUOTE=Saki GT,Apr 22 2009, 08:42 PM] Let's start with this question - what clutch system do you have in now?
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