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Clutch / Flywheel / PP Issues?

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Old Nov 30, 2017 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by afzan
You really don't need to remove the CDV to avoid slip, you just need to change your technique. I used to have problems with the CDV a lot on track and I changed my timing slightly and the problem went away
This is quite true. But removing the cdv has other 'benefits', such as more direct feel and more direct response. Plus you don't have to adjust yourself to the car.

Its an each his own thing. I think some do it just because they think its a nanny, without really understanding what the change actually does.
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Old Nov 30, 2017 | 05:18 PM
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I bang gears like a maniac always
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Old Dec 1, 2017 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
You can also just remove the cdv from the ap2 slave, instead of buying a cast iron ap1 slave. There is a diy.

Your biggest issue isn't cultch slipping, its the opposite, as very clearly summarized by B Serious, your clutch is not fully disengaging when you press the pedal.

I suspect you have an aftermarket clutch disk in there, and its going bad in the classic way they all do, a spring is startimg to break off, and its dragging. It will only get worse, but it will also be intermittent. Sometimes it will be really bad, then it'll get a little better, then worse again.

If its this, your plan to replace clutch will address it. Meanwhile, if its this, there are two things you can do to limp it along a little while longer. Both involve maximizing the throw at the slave end when you press the pedal:

1. Remove the excessive pedal play. The proper rod play is zero. There is already proper play built into the MC. Adjust rod longer until it just touches back of mc, the piston. There should be zero play when pressing pedal before mc starts to move.

2. Raise your clutch pedal height. This will increase stroke, and maximize clutch movement. You adjust pedal height by adjusting the stop, which is also a clutch interlock switch . So you unplug the switch wires, loosen switch lock nut, then unscrew switch so pedal height increases. Then lock it down with lock nit and reconnect wiring.

Also, being rough on the clutch will make the spring fully break loose sooner. So drive it easy. Easy on takeoff, shift smooth, don't rev it out much, etc.
Ok im going to go home and adjust all the free play out of my pedal, it was my understanding that an inch or so was needed at the top but ill take all of it out. As for the Slave cdv i will tackle the removal this weekend. Ive had the car on jack stands too many times this week as it is lol. Thank you guys for all the help. I dont know how to close the thread but i am pretty sure i have it figured out with all the replys and as soon as i take my finals im replacing everything. (Clutch, pp, flywheel, etc.)
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Old Dec 1, 2017 | 05:54 AM
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6mm is the measurable freeplay. 0 is effective.

Set it to 6. If you try to set it to 0, you risk preloading the master cylinder.

Setting it to 6mm makes the actual freeplay inside the system 0.
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