down on power...too much oil??
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I am experiencing a similar problem reported on this thread, and in order to avoid duplicate posts, I'm attaching my questions here.
After the 1st oil/filter change on Sep 06, Fri, initially with 5 qrts, as suggested by the Honda publication, I tried to check on the oil level on the dipstick, but I could not see any visual indication of oil on that dipstick; the silver surface of the dipstick makes it just about impractical to read clean/transparent oil level. So, I added another quart of oil & applied "textual" reading, and that checked out.
Since that 6 qrt oil change, I felt a drop in the engine output, and I've drained out the excess after about 150 miles of admittedly nasty driving.
Do any of you have reasonably precise data to determine the extent of possible damage to the engine after 6 quart oil change & 150 miles of driving? Thanks for you help!
After the 1st oil/filter change on Sep 06, Fri, initially with 5 qrts, as suggested by the Honda publication, I tried to check on the oil level on the dipstick, but I could not see any visual indication of oil on that dipstick; the silver surface of the dipstick makes it just about impractical to read clean/transparent oil level. So, I added another quart of oil & applied "textual" reading, and that checked out.
Since that 6 qrt oil change, I felt a drop in the engine output, and I've drained out the excess after about 150 miles of admittedly nasty driving.
Do any of you have reasonably precise data to determine the extent of possible damage to the engine after 6 quart oil change & 150 miles of driving? Thanks for you help!
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There is some misleading information in this thread.
The manual does state 5.1 quarts as the refill capacity for an oil and oil filter change. However, this is equivalent to 4.8 liters, not 5.8. In my experience, it takes 5.5 quarts to properly fill my car to the correct level as indicated by my dipstick. Since it takes 5.9 quarts (5.6 liters) to refill the engine after an overhaul, perhaps some of us are extracting more oil than was expected by Honda during the draining procedure.
When measuring the oil level, it is important that the car is level (I use a bubble level on the door sill) and that you allow 5-10 minutes for the oil to flow down into the sump. New oil can be hard to see on the dipstick, but if you wait a little longer after refilling it becomes easier to see a discrete level on the stick.
My MY 2000 car came with the factory recommendations of either 5W-40 or 10W-30. This has since been ammended by Honda of America to only 10W-30. However, many people, especially in colder climates, have chosen to use 5W-30 oil. I've noticed that you're about as likely to get consensus on oil viscosity in an internet debate as you are to agree on the best political candidate
. IMO, use a good quality, modern motor oil designed for gasoline engines and you're not going to ruin anything.
Also, as long as the oil level is close to the correct level, there is really no way minor over- or underfilling will affect power output. I'd look for another root cause.
The manual does state 5.1 quarts as the refill capacity for an oil and oil filter change. However, this is equivalent to 4.8 liters, not 5.8. In my experience, it takes 5.5 quarts to properly fill my car to the correct level as indicated by my dipstick. Since it takes 5.9 quarts (5.6 liters) to refill the engine after an overhaul, perhaps some of us are extracting more oil than was expected by Honda during the draining procedure.
When measuring the oil level, it is important that the car is level (I use a bubble level on the door sill) and that you allow 5-10 minutes for the oil to flow down into the sump. New oil can be hard to see on the dipstick, but if you wait a little longer after refilling it becomes easier to see a discrete level on the stick.
My MY 2000 car came with the factory recommendations of either 5W-40 or 10W-30. This has since been ammended by Honda of America to only 10W-30. However, many people, especially in colder climates, have chosen to use 5W-30 oil. I've noticed that you're about as likely to get consensus on oil viscosity in an internet debate as you are to agree on the best political candidate
. IMO, use a good quality, modern motor oil designed for gasoline engines and you're not going to ruin anything.Also, as long as the oil level is close to the correct level, there is really no way minor over- or underfilling will affect power output. I'd look for another root cause.
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