Help! Broke something
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From: Illnoise. WAY downtown, jerky.
We gave some things to check, along with the reason they could be worth checking. Should be obvious if it is related to the slave cylinder once it is up in the air. Either a visible leak, visible damage or the pushrod and arm do not move when the clutch pedal is depressed.
to whom, I wonder?
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Well that just comes off as bashing the OP for even asking ... I just figured it was better to point at things to look at verses assume people know what to go looking for. I figured if they knew they would not be asking here.
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Comes off as bashing the OP, he says....
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This could just be a case of bad timing. Sounds like your clutch was on it's way out and then just happened to blow out after the beach incident. You can check your clutch fluid level to ensure it didn't run dry (meaning you have a leak somewhere) because if it did then there is no way you will be able to change gear. If you can, get underneath the car to inspect the slave cylinder.
The slave cylinder could have been damaged if something was sticking up in the right place.
A slipping clutch does not cause hard shifting.It does not clank either typically. It just does not want to pull the car (Aka rpm increases while vehicle speed does not)
clutch not disengaging when you depress the pedal does though. So if the slave or its line were damaged then that could be what is going on here. And the fact that the pedal feels like it is not doing anything furthers that thought. So, get it on stands, inspect the slave cylinder and its line.
Another quick test. Does it shift into gear fine with the engine off, but not do so when the engine is running? If this is the case, then clutch hydraulics or damaged slave cylinder is likely the issue.
A slipping clutch does not cause hard shifting.It does not clank either typically. It just does not want to pull the car (Aka rpm increases while vehicle speed does not)
clutch not disengaging when you depress the pedal does though. So if the slave or its line were damaged then that could be what is going on here. And the fact that the pedal feels like it is not doing anything furthers that thought. So, get it on stands, inspect the slave cylinder and its line.
Another quick test. Does it shift into gear fine with the engine off, but not do so when the engine is running? If this is the case, then clutch hydraulics or damaged slave cylinder is likely the issue.
To further clarify, when I shift into a gear and try to get the car moving at where the standard clutch engagement point would be, I hear a metal clanking sound as I rev and the car doesn't move.
Regardless, it is the morning here where I am now, so sounds like best to jack the car up and check the slave cylinder for the obvious
Thank you all for the advice thus far - i'm not the most mechanically savvy on what to specifically look for, so it helps alot! Will get to diagnosis now!
What I meant by the clutch feeling is that when it is depressed slowly, there isn't a point where you feel the clutch bite which is the general indicator for you to bring the revs up to get the car moving. The clutch still feels the same but without that particular point where it feels like it engages the gear.
Regardless, I think it wise to pick up a new clutch / flywheel while at it and check the slave.
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From: Illnoise. WAY downtown, jerky.
What I meant by the clutch feeling is that when it is depressed slowly, there isn't a point where you feel the clutch bite which is the general indicator for you to bring the revs up to get the car moving. The clutch still feels the same but without that particular point where it feels like it engages the gear.
Well...you're not depressing the pedal or disengaging the clutch in order for the car to move....
Clutch terms which will help clarify your issue:
Engage - when you lift your clutch foot off the floor and the clutch pedal comes up, causing the clutch to engage the drivetrain.
Engage can be done in neutral OR in gear. Obviously, if you engage the car in gear, the intent is to get the car moving.
Disengage - when you push your foot down on the clutch pedal and it disengages the drivetrain.
Disengage is what you typically do to shift gears or to prevent the engine from driving the car while you're in gear.
It sounds like you're saying that when you try and ENGAGE the clutch/driveline, the car won't move in any gear, and you hear noises.
Externally, you can look for a broken or dislodged driveshaft or axle or any fluid leaks or signs of broken parts.
Is your speedometer showing a speed increase when you engage the clutch with the car in gear? Like...the engine is revving, and the speedometer is showing a speed even though the car isn't moving?
If so, the engine is spinning the drivetrain all the way to the tailshaft, but none of the engine power is going to the wheels. So look for an issue between the tailshaft of the trans and the wheels. Usually, it means your propshaft, or CV axle shaft has broken or dislodged.
If the speedometer matches the car's actual speed (zero, in your case), when you try to engage the drivetrain in gear, then its likely a clutch issue.
Maybe fried the clutch from you trying to become un-beached.
One way or the other, the engine isn't transferring power to the drive wheels. Look for the broken link between the engine and the wheels. Its a problem with engagement.
Hint...its not your slave cylinder. Its only job is to disengage the clutch.
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Well...you're not depressing the pedal or disengaging the clutch in order for the car to move....
Clutch terms which will help clarify your issue:
Engage - when you lift your clutch foot off the floor and the clutch pedal comes up, causing the clutch to engage the drivetrain.
Engage can be done in neutral OR in gear. Obviously, if you engage the car in gear, the intent is to get the car moving.
Disengage - when you push your foot down on the clutch pedal and it disengages the drivetrain.
Disengage is what you typically do to shift gears or to prevent the engine from driving the car while you're in gear.
Ok, this makes some sense...
It sounds like you're saying that when you try and ENGAGE the clutch/driveline, the car won't move in any gear, and you hear noises.
Externally, you can look for a broken or dislodged driveshaft or axle or any fluid leaks or signs of broken parts.
Is your speedometer showing a speed increase when you engage the clutch with the car in gear? Like...the engine is revving, and the speedometer is showing a speed even though the car isn't moving?
If so, the engine is spinning the drivetrain all the way to the tailshaft, but none of the engine power is going to the wheels. So look for an issue between the tailshaft of the trans and the wheels. Usually, it means your propshaft, or CV axle shaft has broken or dislodged.
If the speedometer matches the car's actual speed (zero, in your case), when you try to engage the drivetrain in gear, then its likely a clutch issue.
Maybe fried the clutch from you trying to become un-beached.
One way or the other, the engine isn't transferring power to the drive wheels. Look for the broken link between the engine and the wheels. Its a problem with engagement.
Hint...its not your slave cylinder. Its only job is to disengage the clutch.
Clutch terms which will help clarify your issue:
Engage - when you lift your clutch foot off the floor and the clutch pedal comes up, causing the clutch to engage the drivetrain.
Engage can be done in neutral OR in gear. Obviously, if you engage the car in gear, the intent is to get the car moving.
Disengage - when you push your foot down on the clutch pedal and it disengages the drivetrain.
Disengage is what you typically do to shift gears or to prevent the engine from driving the car while you're in gear.
Ok, this makes some sense...
It sounds like you're saying that when you try and ENGAGE the clutch/driveline, the car won't move in any gear, and you hear noises.
Externally, you can look for a broken or dislodged driveshaft or axle or any fluid leaks or signs of broken parts.
Is your speedometer showing a speed increase when you engage the clutch with the car in gear? Like...the engine is revving, and the speedometer is showing a speed even though the car isn't moving?
If so, the engine is spinning the drivetrain all the way to the tailshaft, but none of the engine power is going to the wheels. So look for an issue between the tailshaft of the trans and the wheels. Usually, it means your propshaft, or CV axle shaft has broken or dislodged.
If the speedometer matches the car's actual speed (zero, in your case), when you try to engage the drivetrain in gear, then its likely a clutch issue.
Maybe fried the clutch from you trying to become un-beached.
One way or the other, the engine isn't transferring power to the drive wheels. Look for the broken link between the engine and the wheels. Its a problem with engagement.
Hint...its not your slave cylinder. Its only job is to disengage the clutch.
It appears my speedo does increase when i put it in gear.. sounds like i may have been premature in purchasing a new clutch kit! Am thinking driveshaft/axle shaft is goners. Hopefully its something that is quite visible!
Thanks heaps for the help!
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From: Illnoise. WAY downtown, jerky.
nooo absolutely not something you want to install.
Buy a factory clutch pressure plate, disc, bearings, release guide (very important), and HT urea grease, all from a Honda dealership.
Google search Exedy clutch reviews for S2000's specifically. They fail at/before 20K miles like clockwork
Buy a factory clutch pressure plate, disc, bearings, release guide (very important), and HT urea grease, all from a Honda dealership.
Google search Exedy clutch reviews for S2000's specifically. They fail at/before 20K miles like clockwork
