Honda Diff Fluid Now Available
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Originally Posted by Road Rage,Feb 29 2008, 09:19 PM
4) I do not think an annual change is necessary - gears are hardened steel, and after they break-in, normal wear metal in suspension will do little or no harm - fresh oil has lightweight volatiles that burn off over time, reaching the 90w stability in time. It probably does not hurt to do it annually, but it is possible.
Thanks again for all your input over the years.
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From: Illnoise. WAY downtown, jerky.
[QUOTE=Gloffer,Apr 9 2003, 07:39 AM] Stopped by the local Honda dealer yesterday to pick up some of the magic Honda MTF and antifreeze for my annual changeout. I had planned on stopping at an AutoZone to get some Mobil 75W/90 synthetic diff fluid. But, lo and behold I noticed on a desktop poster at the parts counter that they listed Honda Differential fluid.
Now, I'm not really that concerned with keeping my Honda all Honda, but since I've had such good luck with the Honda MTF, I asked the parts guy, "do you sell diff fluid by the quart now?" He said, "no it's by the gallon and it's kind of expensive."
Now, I'm not really that concerned with keeping my Honda all Honda, but since I've had such good luck with the Honda MTF, I asked the parts guy, "do you sell diff fluid by the quart now?" He said, "no it's by the gallon and it's kind of expensive."
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Originally Posted by Road Rage,Feb 29 2008, 06:19 PM
Man, this issue is still getting beaten to death after "the truth about 90w..." was posted years ago. Oh Ye of little faith!
1) It is mostly Honda's fault - they spec an oil that is generallt hard to source, and in most cases has a pour point too high to be practically used in much of the USA where temps average below 32degF in winter.
2) I did a lot of research to find LE607, and still use it in my car. LE revised its line of diff gear oils, and now it is LE1604 that is the 90w gear oil.
some relevant specs about LE1604
- it still has the lowest PP I have seen in a 90w - minus 11 degF
- it is GL-5 rated http://www.lubeng.com/search.asp?ID=ALLDOCS - that post that said use of it would void the warranty is wrong
- LE uses an aluminum magnesium additive package that has high shock rating - probably very good for those of you who drag race and do clutch dumps since the beveled edges of the ring/pinion need all the help they can get when such high inertial forces are in play. Almasol is proprietary and unlike anything else out there that I have uncovered. Some of the gear oils foam up badly at high RPM, and foam is a poor lubricant, believe me.
3) I still have it in my diff. No, I do not work for them or have any financial association directly or through any reseller on this site. I have seen this allegation posted by some Amsoilers, and resent it deeply. Attacks ad hominem are lowly and usually come from those without the brainpower or the product to play on a level playing field. Shameful!
4) I do not think an annual change is necessary - gears are hardened steel, and after they break-in, normal wear metal in suspension will do little or no harm - fresh oil has lightweight volatiles that burn off over time, reaching the 90w stability in time. It probably does not hurt to do it annually, but it is possible.
1) It is mostly Honda's fault - they spec an oil that is generallt hard to source, and in most cases has a pour point too high to be practically used in much of the USA where temps average below 32degF in winter.
2) I did a lot of research to find LE607, and still use it in my car. LE revised its line of diff gear oils, and now it is LE1604 that is the 90w gear oil.
some relevant specs about LE1604
- it still has the lowest PP I have seen in a 90w - minus 11 degF
- it is GL-5 rated http://www.lubeng.com/search.asp?ID=ALLDOCS - that post that said use of it would void the warranty is wrong
- LE uses an aluminum magnesium additive package that has high shock rating - probably very good for those of you who drag race and do clutch dumps since the beveled edges of the ring/pinion need all the help they can get when such high inertial forces are in play. Almasol is proprietary and unlike anything else out there that I have uncovered. Some of the gear oils foam up badly at high RPM, and foam is a poor lubricant, believe me.
3) I still have it in my diff. No, I do not work for them or have any financial association directly or through any reseller on this site. I have seen this allegation posted by some Amsoilers, and resent it deeply. Attacks ad hominem are lowly and usually come from those without the brainpower or the product to play on a level playing field. Shameful!
4) I do not think an annual change is necessary - gears are hardened steel, and after they break-in, normal wear metal in suspension will do little or no harm - fresh oil has lightweight volatiles that burn off over time, reaching the 90w stability in time. It probably does not hurt to do it annually, but it is possible.
is that really you?
it's been a long time!
anyway, the general consensus, including as stated by LE reps, is that 1605 is the replacement for 607, and even though 1605 is 110w, a new sae standard would make 110w equivalent to previous 90w.
your thoughts on this?
i recently put in 1605 and am curious to your thoughts.
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Originally Posted by jyeung528,May 8 2008, 04:04 PM
anyway, the general consensus, including as stated by LE reps, is that 1605 is the replacement for 607, and even though 1605 is 110w, a new sae standard would make 110w equivalent to previous 90w.
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If a 24 Quart case or a 35 Lb. / 5 gal. pail is more than you want to purchase at on time you can always seek out the L.E. rep. in your area. This person may opt to sell you a smaller order or like a lot of small contractors do, you get a few friends to go in with you. Quite a lot of small construction co.'s run by one guy with a small excavator or one truck will buy a 50 tube case of grease and split it with his friends. In the bigger co.'s that use L.E. in sand & gravel or asphalt plants the employees buy a 55 of engine oil amongst a group to share the lower price for volume. If you don't know the Rep. where you live you can call the 800 # or find him/her on the web site.