As far as I know, no direct comparison exists. However, we do know this: the Mobil 1 filters include a synthetic media which is far more effective in trapping fine particulates than cellulose media (found in the PCX) alone

1 + 1 = 2

Fram is junk...well documented

 

I just went out to my garage and i have 4 filters left. They all have 6 holes. So are these not as good as the 8 holes?

 

[QUOTE=2007 Zx-10,Aug 19 2008, 10:41 AM] As far as I know, no direct comparison exists.

 

sure, the F20 and F22 have higher flow and pressure than a Civic engine, for example, that's easy to believe

the filter housing is already quite large for such a small engine imo, and the aftermarket housings are the same size as the PCX, but with better media

http://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?...11&#entry105211

apparently these are also good, not sure about the price, though
http://www.baldwinfilter.com/products/lube.html

 

[QUOTE=2007 Zx-10,Aug 19 2008, 01:41 PM]As far as I know, no direct comparison exists.

 

The synthetic blends out-perform pure cellulose, that's really all you need to know. The PCX is a run-of-the-mill cellulose media filter with a stiffer bypass valve; not bad, not great

Yes, I've posted several links that show the synthetic blend media is superior, that's well accepted fact on most forums where this topic has been debated.

Honda is in business to make money, sell you a good filter that will do the job, and turn a reasonable profit, that's all they really care about. They are not in the filter business. It's been well documented they do not make the filter that you are using on your car

Cutting open a filter and taking pictures has been done many times but doesn't prove anything in terms of quatifiable performance. As I previously noted from BITOG, you would need to conduct a direct particulate count comparison between both filters

 

I never said "high flow" I said specific flow characteristics
As for the turbo car comparison Honda does things differently.
Getting only 100,000 miles on a sports car before breakdown or major overhaul might be alright with Mazda and Mitsu but that's what seperates Honda quality from the rest

 

I don't know about that. A pretty high number of header oil fires have been reported with the Mobil1 filters considering how few people use them. Perhaps they were just misinstalled, but perhaps they just are not a good choice for this application.

Basically, I'll stick with the PCX004 filters. Not only are they less expensive but there is a huge number of users which provides great evidence that they are at least "good enough".

 

I agree with this logic as well. I just wanted to state that, if using a K&N and/or Mobil filter, the installer should torque it down well. Most of the fire threads that I've read seem to be related to the oil filter backing off thus causing an oil spray in the engine compartment.

I agree completely that the large base of PCX 004 users more than validates it as one of the best options to use on the S2000.

 

While oil fires are certainly a concern, proper torquing of the filter should always be done, regardless. I don't see why the PCX would be any better in this regard.

Of course it's the most popular filter, but that in itself doesn't prove it's better. I suspect it's good enough (90-95% efficient) for most applications, it all depends on what performance you're looking for