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Old Aug 18, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Actually, the reason most of us continue to use this filter is because it is the only filter Honda makes that is specified for just one car, the S2000.
I'm not sure this is still the case, but even if it is, there doesn't seem to be anything special about the PCX filter at all from the cut-aways on this thread

my FD Rx-7 runs oil pressures up to 120 psi and I've never has an issue with Mobil 1 filters
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 2007 Zx-10,Aug 18 2008, 10:38 PM
I'm not sure this is still the case, but even if it is, there doesn't seem to be anything special about the PCX filter at all from the cut-aways on this thread
Well, Honda seems to think different. If there was really nothing unique about the PCX 004 Honda wouldn't spec it just for the S2000.

Originally Posted by 2007 Zx-10,Aug 18 2008, 10:38 PM
my FD Rx-7 runs oil pressures up to 120 psi and I've never has an issue with Mobil 1 filters
That's great. But the S2000 isn't an FD RX-7 is it?

Look, I think you're a smart guy. I just finished reading the whole 8 page argument between Slipstream444 and yourself. You're new here, and you seem to like jumping into threads and making bold claims about Mobil products without doing all your research first. After 8 straight pages of arguing you finally say this:
Originally Posted by 2007 Zx-10,Aug 18 2008, 03:50 PM
I might just go over to the dark side and try the Amsoil
At this point, you're the new guy, you're the challenger. If you want to challenge the information already established on this site then by all means, please do so. That's how we all learn something new. But you'll have to challenge it by proving that the products/resources that we're all familiar with are inferior or somehow less worthy than, say, a Mobil 1 oil filter.

Its not enough to jump on here and say
Originally Posted by 2007 Zx-10,Aug 18 2008, 02:14 PM
I have $100 that says the Mobil 1 or K&N filter would blow that thing out of the water in any test of performance....the filter media looks like the usual cheap stuff found in a host of other filters
Bring some information to the table that indicates your M1 filters are better. Find some tests, hell, cut one open yourself and show us how much better the filter element is compared to the pile of Acme filters in my garage. I have a completely open mind about this stuff and I'm fully willing to accept that there might be a better filter out there. So, show me what you got. But please, don't bet me $100 that some filter that worked great on your old RX-7 is somehow going to work just as great on a completely different car with completely different design characteristics. You'll have to bring more than that if you want to be convincing.

Keep in mind, I have nothing against Mobil or K&N filters. And I've already said you could likely use those filters on the S2000 without ever having an issue. But that isn't the argument here. The argument is...are those filters any BETTER than the PCX 004 when considering their use on the Honda S2000?
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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Well, Honda seems to think different. If there was really nothing unique about the PCX 004 Honda wouldn't spec it just for the S2000.
*sigh* everyone keeps repeating the same chorus...there is nothing special about that filter, ok?

That's great. But the S2000 isn't an FD RX-7 is it?
that's right, it's not even in the same ball park in terms of performance, oil flow, or oil pressure

Bring some information to the table that indicates your M1 filters are better.
I already did, I posted the thread about Mobil 1 and Amsoil filters. I doubt anyone has tested the filtration performance of the beloved PCX, they just blindly use it because that's what it says in the manual. It's well documented now that the PCX has a standard, nothing special cellulose media, what does that tell you? The only thing "special" about it seems to be a stiffer bypass valve (Toyo Roki, not Filtech)
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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[QUOTE=RACER,Mar 25 2007, 09:30 PM]Once again, these filter's are not identical by no means, but the filters you have are good enough for now.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 90crvtec,Aug 19 2008, 06:27 AM
I just finished reading the whole 8 page argument between Slipstream444 and yourself. You're new here, and you seem to like jumping into threads and making bold claims about Mobil products without doing all your research first. After 8 straight pages of arguing you finally say this:
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If you read that entire thread, you will notice I never made any "bold claims" about Mobil 1 as the "best" or "better" oil, did I? Slip did that....

However, I am confident the Mobil 1or K&N filter would outperform this "universal" Honda filter any day of the week
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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^
why?
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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This thread has been beaten to death
The OP had his question answered
People posted comparison pictures and comments
Now the choice is yours on what filter you want to use
lock this puppy up!
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jyeung528,Aug 19 2008, 08:29 AM
^
why?
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbth...1189112&fpart=3
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:50 AM
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i'll use the one that is specifically designed for the s2000.

if someone can prove that mobil or amsoil also designed a specific filter for the s2000, using the same principle that necessitates an s2000 specific filter...then i may consider it...otherwise, i'll use the one filter that is specifically designed for the s2000.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 08:51 AM
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for example, if mobile were to say "honda designed an s2000 specific filter because of this this and that...and we also did that for the s2000 and here is the filter" then i may consider it.

otherwise, it's comforting to know that honda deemed the s2000 to require a specific filter and provides it.
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