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Old May 9, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Greenlight,May 8 2006, 09:34 PM
Do you know if they left the cylinder sleeves above the block deck surface? If so, how much?

Mine were left 0.002" above the deck. After only a few runs they were flush to 0.002" below the deck surface. It's causing a lot of head sealing problems for me. I had to have the deck of the block resurfaced to get the sleeves back above the deck surface.

Also, what will you run for a head gasket? Will you O-Ring the block?

I think that you will end up with ~0.212" between bores, which is not ideal for gasket sealing.
Sometimes we leave the sleeves sticking out of the deck and sometimes we don't. If the sleeves sunk .004, that is a problem with whoever machined the block.

Even when we do run them above the deck, they don't sink if machined correctly.

As far as the distance between the bores, we run even bigger bores than this on the street. I have customers driving around for over 5 years without having any headgasket problems.

We have done many motors similar to this setup, and we wouldn't do something that wouldn't work. All we do is build honda motors and thats what Jeremy does 10 hours a day, 6 days a week for over 5 years.

Again, just stick around and find out, and see the motor run.
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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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Began some assembly tonight

THANKS TO TOM FROM PORTFLOW with the BEAUTIFUL WORK!!!



More of Jeremy's precision work,




lubrication,


PORTFLOW's lovely head work (thanks again Tom),






Installing our inlinePRO springs and retainers


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Old May 9, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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I'd love to see what your base map for your EMS is going to be like. The reason I ask is it always good to have a comparison with a similar setup to see if things could be done better. Also the head looks great!

BTW: You know you'll have to have a custom setup to get the in-dash temp gage to work? I beleive most folks use "modfy's" to correct this, but I am wondering if you are going to go the same route?
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Old May 10, 2006 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Stoner_1,May 9 2006, 08:40 PM
I'd love to see what your base map for your EMS is going to be like. The reason I ask is it always good to have a comparison with a similar setup to see if things could be done better. Also the head looks great!

BTW: You know you'll have to have a custom setup to get the in-dash temp gage to work? I beleive most folks use "modfy's" to correct this, but I am wondering if you are going to go the same route?
Yes, modifry parts should be on the way soon. We will be using their ECT driver. I don't know why AEM won't just add it to their system. We've brought the idea up to them, but no go.

I really wish hondata would come out with something for the s2k
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Old May 10, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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well, i can input quite a bit here. i dont care rather you think im on anybodies side, i come from my side. and im telling you how i feel from years of doing this, and not only on s2000's.
many folks here are quick to bash, and do so with little or no experience, and for those who have taken a loss on a 2.5, id have to say its because of your tuner, not always because of the builder.
what ive seen with my own two eyes, is a well built motor. piston squirters are only necessary if your gonna run the car very lean, or for very long periods, at high rpm, again, usually very lean. if the correct piston is used, and the tune is good, the car will never have an issue without piston cooling nozzles.
as kevin (LShatch) had stated, his car runs quite well. he picked up the inlinepro 2.5 from a guy (shortblock only) and i assembled every other aspect of it. with baker cylinder heads doing all the work for his stage2 head. the tune was done by mike angel of factorX, if that name doesnt ring a bell, he builds the highest HP NSX's on the planet. his recent shop car put down over 800 whp, stock block. he is no newb when it comes to tuning.
here are a few shots of kevins mill going together. if you have any questions, or would like input on the quality of IP's stuff, ask away. i dont know a single person from IP, but this is the second of their products ive played with, as i also worked with one of their turbo kits on steveL's car, and with mikey tuning, on 7 psi, super conservative, he put down 330 wheel, and 215 lb ft of torque. never had a single issue, again, install and tune are everything when it comes to this magnitude of performance.









you can ask kevin what numbers hes put down so far, on conservative tune, and with stock TB and crappy DC header.
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Old May 10, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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I really wish we could leave the argument (both sides) out of this particular thread.

This is a very informative thread with nice documentation and pictures. We get to see the whole build, tune and results. And at the end of the day if the engine produces the power and reliability we have a full example. And if it dies we have a confirmation of many's fears.
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Old May 11, 2006 | 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AusS2000,May 10 2006, 05:27 PM
I really wish we could leave the argument (both sides) out of this particular thread.

This is a very informative thread with nice documentation and pictures. We get to see the whole build, tune and results. And at the end of the day if the engine produces the power and reliability we have a full example. And if it dies we have a confirmation of many's fears.
Its all good,

Looks like he is just helping our cause by confriming the quality of the products.

Thanks S2oonVegas
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Old May 11, 2006 | 04:46 AM
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Not even sure what day it is anymore.... The short block was completed today as far as assembly goes.

More measurements from Jeremy,



CC'ing the domes... i'm sure not many have seen this done before....





All pistons are put in.




Crank installed, short block completed.

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Old May 11, 2006 | 05:24 AM
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VA@inlinepro: What is meant by "CC'ing the domes"... I'm figuring that it's a ring leakage test of sorts?
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Old May 11, 2006 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Stoner_1,May 11 2006, 09:24 AM
VA@inlinepro: What is meant by "CC'ing the domes"... I'm figuring that it's a ring leakage test of sorts?
yes, i would like to know about this also...
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