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Old May 19, 2022 | 04:34 PM
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I had to remove the right door card on my AP-1 (2000), and found this lying in the bottom of the door. I suspect it is some kind of stop or glide for the window, but can not find a reference to it in the factory service manual or any of the parts diagrams on the web. Anyone have an idea where this is supposed to be mounted?

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Old May 19, 2022 | 05:13 PM
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Window stabilizers, they are held in place with a friction fit. Poor design, I would guess every S2000 has them sitting in the bottom of the doors. Mine were like that, I had to glue them back in place with high strength sealant, if you reattach them they will pop off again in the future.
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Old May 19, 2022 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by zeroptzero
Window stabilizers, they are held in place with a friction fit. Poor design, I would guess every S2000 has them sitting in the bottom of the doors. Mine were like that, I had to glue them back in place with high strength sealant, if you reattach them they will pop off again in the future.

Where are they supposed to be attached?

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Old May 20, 2022 | 06:56 AM
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And what do they do?

Stabilize the window obviously, but stabilize it against what? What might happen if these are sitting in bottom of door instead of where they're supposed to be?

Since its probably common, would be useful to community to know.

PS - when I did my stereo upgrade a few years ago, didn't have this issue. Nothing in bottom of doors. Did sound deadening so was pretty thorough first cleaning, then applying. Would have seen them.
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Old May 20, 2022 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JB Morrison
Where are they supposed to be attached?

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It is hard to describe, they attach to the top of the metal door frame , there is an indentation in the door and they slide over the metal held in place by the plastic ends that apply slight pressure. The felt material goes against the window. They are prone to falling out as the window goes up and down and rubs on them and they are only held in place with the pressure of the plastic ends. Do you have a shop manual ? Looking up at the door with the door card removed you can see the mounting spot but it is hard to see how they install without some fiddling around with them.
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Old May 20, 2022 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by zeroptzero
It is hard to describe, they attach to the top of the metal door frame , there is an indentation in the door and they slide over the metal held in place by the plastic ends that apply slight pressure. The felt material goes against the window. They are prone to falling out as the window goes up and down and rubs on them and they are only held in place with the pressure of the plastic ends. Do you have a shop manual ? Looking up at the door with the door card removed you can see the mounting spot but it is hard to see how they install without some fiddling around with them.
I do have the shop manual (mentioned in my OP), but nt seeing the part. I’ll look for the indentation on the top of the door fram you mentioned.

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Old May 20, 2022 | 07:14 PM
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The mounting spot is closer to the rear end of the door, somewhat near the handle area of the door, so closer to the rear end than the front end. It's been a few years since I reinstalled them, I remember seeing a picture of them somewhere - shop manual or Honda S2000 parts diagram (on-line).

Check this video below, at the 7:34 mark you can see the faint white outline of the stabilizer part inside the upper door area, just in front of the window adjuster bolt , upper left side of the door. You can't see it completely but it shows the general area where it is installed, it pushes on the outer side of the window glass, and the adjuster bolt pushes the glass towards the stabilizer. You can see the black felt strips facing inwards on the video , towards the glass. When I reinstalled mine I squeezed some ultragrey gasket sealant into the clips of the parts to give them some extra holding power so they don't fall out again, I let the sealant cure and avoided using the windows until the sealant was cured.

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Old May 21, 2022 | 06:15 AM
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Thanks, definitely can see that part at the 7:34 mark. Looks like more trouble than its worth to replace that stabilizer as it appears I would have to remove the window.

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Old May 21, 2022 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JB Morrison
Thanks, definitely can see that part at the 7:34 mark. Looks like more trouble than its worth to replace that stabilizer as it appears I would have to remove the window.

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No not at all, that guy in the video is replacing the regulator so he had to remove the window. The window does not have to be removed for this. The stabilizer just slides over the metal door frame flange , you reach around and up and slide it down onto the flange that is the top of the door. With the door car removed you should be able to reach it. I can't remember if the window needs to be rolled all the way down or up, but have a look if you attempt it. If you have some kind of caulking or sealant squeeze a bit into the end clips of the stabilizer to help it grip stronger in the future, if not it will use the friction fit of the clips to hold it in place.
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