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Old 09-28-2017, 09:43 AM
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OP is located in Europe and engine availability is probably not the same here as in the US.
I hope Honda will fix it for you klemen.
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Block checked fine, crankshaft was ok......oil analysis showed fuel in the oil :/, next we sent injectors to get them checked....... but its funny cause when we drained the oil there was no gas smell :/
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so the thought is that the oil was contaminated with fuel through the injectors and was not providing adequate protection?

that would have to be a lot of fuel contamination, considering fuel gets combusted in the chambers and exits through the exhaust.

i'm confused.
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Someone mentioned having the new oil analysed, as maybe its counterfeit oil. Maybe he was on to something.

Maybe the oil isn't really oil, or at least not all oil, and contains something that the analysis assumed was fuel.

You are assuming that contaminant was introduced during running of the engine. What if it was there all along? What if the oil itself caused the problem?
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
Someone mentioned having the new oil analysed, as maybe its counterfeit oil. Maybe he was on to something.

Maybe the oil isn't really oil, or at least not all oil, and contains something that the analysis assumed was fuel.

You are assuming that contaminant was introduced during running of the engine. What if it was there all along? What if the oil itself caused the problem?
yea, that would be me.
Old 10-04-2017, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Car Analogy
Someone mentioned having the new oil analysed, as maybe its counterfeit oil. Maybe he was on to something.

Maybe the oil isn't really oil, or at least not all oil, and contains something that the analysis assumed was fuel.

You are assuming that contaminant was introduced during running of the engine. What if it was there all along? What if the oil itself caused the problem?
Kinda reminds me... a LONG time ago ppl used to use "break-in" oil in newly rebuilt engines. I still use it on motorcycle engines. Can't be in for more than a few hundred miles. Dunno what would happen if you left it in for thousands of miles.

https://www.amazon.com/Competition-Cams-1590-12-Engine-Bottles/dp/B003JDZ046/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1507126223&sr=8-1&keywords=break-in+oil https://www.amazon.com/Competition-Cams-1590-12-Engine-Bottles/dp/B003JDZ046/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1507126223&sr=8-1&keywords=break-in+oil
Old 10-06-2017, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by windhund116
Kinda reminds me... a LONG time ago ppl used to use "break-in" oil in newly rebuilt engines. I still use it on motorcycle engines. Can't be in for more than a few hundred miles. Dunno what would happen if you left it in for thousands of miles.

https://www.amazon.com/Competition-C...s=break-in+oil
Millers Running in oil 10w40 was used for about 2 hours and 20-30 miles.
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Fuel injectors are ok......

Oil analysis: Motul Xcess 8100 5w-40

Flashpoint ASTM D 93 (°C) - 108
ISO 3771 (mg KOH/g) - 9,23
Fosfor (P), (Ut.%) - 0,0873
Žveplo (S), (Ut.%) - 0,2521
Kalcij (Ca), (Ut.%) - 0,2605
Cink (Zn), (Ut.%) - 0,0981

Metal:

Chrome (Cr), (mg/kg) - 3
Copper (Cu), (mg/kg) - 14
Iron (Fe), (mg/kg) - 19
lead (Pb), (mg/kg) - <5
kositer (Sn) (mg/kg) - <14
Aluminij (Al), (mg/kg) - 16

Contaminants:

Silicij (Si), (mg/kg) - 55

They say they couldnt messure viscosity because there was so muc "fuel).....they asume that cause of low flashpoint

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New Honda engines are bone dry, and need to be primed before initial start. Do you know if this was done?
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Originally Posted by Billman250
New Honda engines are bone dry, and need to be primed before initial start. Do you know if this was done?
He filled the oil, crank it till the oil light turned off.......repeated cranking...then started the engine.


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