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Old 01-13-2011, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowTeg,Jan 13 2011, 10:50 AM
I'm not sure if you guys noticed, but the video using the outer ring on the coin tool to expand the gap was the titled "Gapping- Incorrect" in the video, and the way you're not supposed to do it.
True, but they also said at least twice that the coin-type tool is not recommended, which implies there's something inherently inferior about it.

On my wire-loop tool, the gap I want falls exactly in between two of the wire sizes (admittedly it was cheap -- think it only has like 5 loops! ). At least with the coin-type you can measure any value.
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Originally Posted by SlowTeg,Jan 13 2011, 01:50 PM
I'm not sure if you guys noticed, but the video using the outer ring on the coin tool to expand the gap was the titled "Gapping- Incorrect" in the video, and the way you're not supposed to do it. They were showing the wrong way, not the right way of doing it.

I've been gapping plugs for a long time now, and if people can't gap spark plug correctly, then changing their oil might be a stretch as well. For Christ's sake people, just make sure you're doing it correctly, and you'll be fine. If you're touching the tip at all of the plug, you're not doing it right. Paying a fortune just to get pre-gapped plugs is ridiculous. If you're really that non-mechanically inclinced, then by all means by them pre-gapped, but I'm willing to bet 90% of people can gap spark plugs.
Majestic Honda sells the plugs for just about the same price as Autozone or almost any other big auto parts store...so I'll take em already gapped especially if they're comparably priced
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Originally Posted by midnightmethane,Jan 13 2011, 03:09 PM
Majestic Honda sells the plugs for just about the same price as Autozone or almost any other big auto parts store...so I'll take em already gapped especially if they're comparably priced
Gotcha, I stand corrected then, I was under the impression that they were considerably more (I'm they're a lot more at your local dealer though). I'm just saying as well, no one should be discouraged from trying to gap plugs yourself. You use the hole to expand the grounding electrode, and tape it lightly to close the gap.
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^ I hear ya...I learned the difference by shopping (mind you I still haven't bought a set)...the local Honda Service Center in Yonkers quoted me $22 a plug...but looking on Majestic Honda's website I saw $13 and change, and that's just about what I saw at Autozone...so good enough for me
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Originally Posted by Billman250,Jan 4 2011, 04:55 PM
Yeah...go ahead and gap them, fracture the coating so it can fall into the engine and score the cylinder

There's a reason you don't gap them. I can give you some screen names who did and scored a cylinder if you need convincing.
Billman, what's the coating you are referring to? I'm old school, have always gapped my own plugs. I thought only the electrode was made out of these exotic substances these days.
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Honda supplied plugs are pre-gapped and I wouldn't touch them. I know some of the plugs purchased from auto parts stores aren't coming pre-gapped even though they seem to be similar NGK plugs, so they would have to be gapped. Those can be gapped if you know what you are doing, unfortunately many people don't know how to avoid causing damage, and are best off buying the dealer supplied plugs if they can't find pre-gapped ones at auto parts suppliers.

Billman250, I recall you found some S2K's misfiring with Iridium plugs. I'm curious to know your opinion on why Iridium plugs foul in the S2K as compared to the factory platinums ?. The only thing I can think of is that Iridiums use a thinner center electrode and with oil burning S2K motors perhaps they are affected by deposits more so than platinums with thicker center electrodes ?. Do you think that has something to do with it , or is it some other factor ?. I'm running an NGK Iridium which has worked fine for 5,000 miles, though I know people with the misfires seem to report them after 15,000 miles or something like that, which might correlate with my deposits theory ?. I'd be interested in hearing your real world experience on this issue. Thanks for any reply.
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how often do i need to replace my plugs?
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Originally Posted by chuhsi,Jan 24 2011, 02:21 PM
how often do i need to replace my plugs?
the factory plugs are rated for over 100k miles, but mine exceeded the service limit at 55k miles at which time I replaced them as the gaps had opened up over 1.3mm. Only real way to know is to inspect them , or trust they will last the recommended term.
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If you get some NGK Laser Iridium Long Life IFR7G-11KS plugs they should last 100k with ease. I like NGK and Denso plugs and use both in my cars and bikes.
This is one of the plugs that are recommended by Sparkplugs.com
http://www.sparkplugs.com/results_app.asp?...=1&AAIA=1432635

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