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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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I'm looking for a handling setup to get my car as neutral as I can. Since the s2k has a strong auto x family on here I was hoping someone with expereince could assist me in choosing my wheel/tire and suspension setup.

Basically from what I've read on here, the X brace is a must, and with that I choose the Digrappa X. Anyhow this car is a daily driver and I might get into some events later on but I will mostly be found on the street so no adjustable sways or anything to crazy. I was looking for some Tein RA's to lower and adjust my car. Any other opinions on sways, STBs, bushings, andything suspension would be great.

As for the wheels I'd like a wide width in the back, something for traction to reduce wheel spin yet nothing to cause to much oversteer by being staggered. I'd like 18's also so an offset would be greatly appreciated. I can figure the tire size myself but why not throw in a whole package. I was looking at Mugen or RH wheels 18x9.5 rear 18x8 front, but I dunno enough to choose.

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P.s. - I love my S2K!
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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You seem to contradict yourself a lot. You want awesome handling, but no crazy setup... daily driver like, but you'll lower your car? the car is low enough stock to make me bottom out everywhere i go, not very practicle street-wise, but that's just around here. If you want a basic set up for better handling go for the X-brace and STB's, those work good together. Anything else you're looking at those things you're not wanting to do. I believe offsets can be found in the 'Library', just look under the appropriate subjects.
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 04:30 PM
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Thanks for the info, I'm coming from 2 Supras so my idea of modding a car is a bit crazy I could just see it a bit lower, I feel like it needs Coilovers to complete the feel. No, I won't be racing on any tracks but I love the rough feel of a rigid car. I was thinking other frame enhancements would make the car too stiff for the streets, any other comments welcome. sorry for the first post but thats how it is in my head as you can see I really can't make up my mind... Thanks for the post magnet
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 05:19 PM
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Sorry, no experience with supras here, but maybe someday... lol. i would love to lower my car also, but i live in a bumpy area, and bottom out all the time, so that's not an option. I'm even worried about my bodykit with stock s2000 height. but definitely do whatever you want to do with this car, and don't let anyone discourage you to do so. modification is the molding of your personality onto your car. but i'm probably preaching to the choir here if you owned 2 supras. enjoy.
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 05:37 PM
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You mentioned that you wanted wider wheels / tires to reduce wheel spin. Is this because you don't want to accidentally spin the tires, or because you want to drag race it. You really don't need to worry about it. This car doesn't have enough torque, and its clutch is too weak to have a wheel spin problem. If you're wanting to drag race it, then you'll want to be able to generate wheel spin. Taller wheels and wider tires are probably going to create a slower S2000.
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 06:01 PM
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Thanks magnet your posts are great

gernby,
I've been driving high horsepower for a while now, lol I definetly know about hondas and torque. especially the lack there of in my s2k, but I still spin. I break on the launch and have watched my girlfriend spin much of the way through first. From my supra days, increasing contact patch never hurt acceleration... but who knows with the s2k? You guys tell me? I was thinking something like 18x9 maybe 9.5r and whatever the widest upfront.. I can't figure the offsets but I never have been able to.
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 08:26 AM
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Gernby, you have had success autocrossing, and I've dialed in my stock settings and gotten much quicker. Tell this boy how it works. Start messing with the stock setup and be prepared to have deep pockets. One modification changes all the others. Once you start, you can't stop.
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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 08:21 PM
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TribalTT

I have only had my car for a short time. I have learned that for a relatively low production car that has only been out a short time there are a lot of mods/acsessories you can get for it. I'm not sure why you need any of them, especially if you are not racing. You say you like the harsh ride that stiffer springs give, so do what you like, but don't expect that any of the mods are necesarily making the car better.

Yes, wider rubber will make your car slower at some point. I do not claim to know where that point is, but I would bet that the sizes you are talking about will slow it down. You want some wheel spin for the fastest possible acceleration.

As for "no torque" I really don't know what people mean when they say that. As you say, you are spinning the wheels so I guess thats enough torque right? If you want the front end to pick up in the air when you floor the gas, no, it doesn't do that. That's a good thing, but I know some people want that.

You are asking the right questions. Listen carefully to the answers from people who have the stuff you want before you buy it yourself. You'll save a ton of dough and be a lot happier with the results. People always think the factory stuff can be improved by aftermarket people with about one tenth the engineering knowlege of the factory. That is not always the case, and with the S2000 you should expect most bolt ons won't be worth the price.

Good luck, and Happy Motoring!

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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by TribalTT
Thanks magnet your posts are great

gernby,
I've been driving high horsepower for a while now, lol I definetly know about hondas and torque. especially the lack there of in my s2k, but I still spin. I break on the launch and have watched my girlfriend spin much of the way through first. From my supra days, increasing contact patch never hurt acceleration... but who knows with the s2k? You guys tell me? I was thinking something like 18x9 maybe 9.5r and whatever the widest upfront.. I can't figure the offsets but I never have been able to.
I don't doubt your experience with Supras, but I seem to recall you saying that you are new to the S2K. The S2K is not a muscle car, so wheel spin (lots) is necessary for a good launch. If you put drag slicks on this car, with a stock clutch, you'll be the slowest S2000 around (at the drag strip). The key is that you MUST be able to keep the engine RPMs above 6K during the launch, and this clutch won't hold 240 HP if it's feathered.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 06:24 PM
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Legal Bill, you are being generous giving the aftermarket 1/10 the engineering knowledge of the factory. Remember the Bugeye!
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