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07-09-2002, 05:42 AM
#101
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I guarantee you that if this is a problem that ALL F20C's have or that CAN manifest on all F20C's, I'll be first in line to buy the parts necessary and do the work myself, if need be. I'd much prefer that Honda do this for me, however.
In fact, I might pursue friends that I have in the region to look into this for me.
Any chance anyone can get a copy of the procedure for the repair/"update?" I understand we should be waiting patiently for AHM to get their ducks in a row, but I have been SORELY dissappointed in the past with AHM's reaction time and attitude towards problems caused by Americans driving their Hondas like Europeans do.
In fact, I might pursue friends that I have in the region to look into this for me.
Any chance anyone can get a copy of the procedure for the repair/"update?" I understand we should be waiting patiently for AHM to get their ducks in a row, but I have been SORELY dissappointed in the past with AHM's reaction time and attitude towards problems caused by Americans driving their Hondas like Europeans do.
07-09-2002, 05:43 AM
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Fact:
Drivers in Europe do use their cars differently than in the US. Therefore there are different mechanical situations that come up.
Drivers in Europe do use their cars differently than in the US. Therefore there are different mechanical situations that come up.
While the average European driver might drive differently than the average US driver, the types of "mechanical situations" that come up in Europe will absolutely appear in the US, possibly at a different "situation" rate. Doesn't mean AHM shouldn't address the problem for the 10% of owners that will experience the "situation".
07-09-2002, 05:52 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by txst
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Not that I want a "#4 cylinder" problem with my engine, but we need to relax here a bit.
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Not that I want a "#4 cylinder" problem with my engine, but we need to relax here a bit.
07-09-2002, 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by cdelena
All true.. but if Honda Europe finds it important to upgrade a component designed to keep the pistons cool there is a 99% chance it is needed by many of us. AHM may 'think' that we drive substantially different than they do in Europe, and that may be true for them stuck on LA freeways, but I can guarantee it is not true for many of us. Ask the Houston guys what their average speed was to Knoxville last year. There are plenty of places in this country to drive a steady 120+ in sixth or keep the car above 6K rpm for extended periods. I don't buy the story that we should have inferior equipment because we have lower speed limits.
All true.. but if Honda Europe finds it important to upgrade a component designed to keep the pistons cool there is a 99% chance it is needed by many of us. AHM may 'think' that we drive substantially different than they do in Europe, and that may be true for them stuck on LA freeways, but I can guarantee it is not true for many of us. Ask the Houston guys what their average speed was to Knoxville last year. There are plenty of places in this country to drive a steady 120+ in sixth or keep the car above 6K rpm for extended periods. I don't buy the story that we should have inferior equipment because we have lower speed limits.
Ponder this scenario: If replacing the banjo bolts had a probability of .05% of decreasing the chance of engine failure, would I have a dealer open up the bottom end of my engine? I don't think I would have the work done - some dealers have a hard enough time changing the oil on these cars. Of course, that is a personal preference.
I'm just from the camp that we should wait and see what shakes out. We are a pretty close community with a lot of know-how and a great history of sharing information, as Ronald, Barry and even Woodwork have proven. Hopefully it will all become clearer in the near future.
07-09-2002, 01:57 PM
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07-09-2002, 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by cdelena
But I am very much more interested in my limited rights as a vested consumer with little recourse than their strategy to maximize profits.
But I am very much more interested in my limited rights as a vested consumer with little recourse than their strategy to maximize profits.
i hear that!!!!
07-09-2002, 03:46 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by cdelena
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Please read my posts before you preach to me. I never thought or claimed that this was related to the #4 problem, and I have no issue with WW.. in fact we have spoken in the past and probably agree on most things.
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Please read my posts before you preach to me. I never thought or claimed that this was related to the #4 problem, and I have no issue with WW.. in fact we have spoken in the past and probably agree on most things.
07-09-2002, 04:10 PM
#110
OK, now that we got it straight from the horses @$$ that AHM is not planning to release the "not a recall" in the USA, who's got the skills to concoct a b!tch'n a$$ Form Letter?