ahhh... okl i need some help asap, i tried this mod today but after a few hrs i could not get out the snap ring... im tired and i dont want to try it anymore... so i go and put it all back and start doing the bleeding of the clutch and now my clutch wont stiffen up and i see some fluid leaking out of the boot where the slave cylinder goes into... what could be causing the leak? please help

 

well i stopped the clutch bleeder from bleeding and its full my now my car wont turn over... ahhh why is this happening. i did the bleeding correctly and a more then a few times making sure the resevoir was full at all times. my clutch seems loose at first too when i pump it but after pumping it a couple times it stiff where it should be... but i think when i let it rest a little and pump some more its light at first again and will get stiff after a couple pumps. can someone hep please... i need to get the car running again.

 

When you re-installed your slave cylinder, you may not have matched up the end of the plunger with the end of the release fork properly. When you push on the clutch pedal, you may be sending the plunger past the fork and getting it jammed. This may prevent the clutch pedal from going all the way down to the floor, thus not deactivating the clutch/starter interlock.
Just curious and this may or may not have anything to do with the engine not starting: When you try to start the engine is the tranny in neutral? If it's in gear and your clutch is not working, then you are trying to start the car "in gear" and if you are able to get the pedal to the floor and deactivate the interlock switch, the engine will try to drive the car against the brakes. Does it feel like that? Or does it not make any noise at all when you hit the starter button?

 

is it that much of pain in the ass to take that snap ring out?

 

the engine is trying to turn over but only for a sec and it will stop... Well i think right now the problem still remains that i didnt put back the cylinder correctly and didnt match it up at both ends. I hear a like squeaking rubber noise sorta when i push in teh clutch now... Also just curious is the rubber boot suppose to move back and fourth when u push on the clutch? I saw it move back and fourth when my cousin pushed in the clutch. right now it is too dark and im too tired to continue on the car... im pissed and would like to get it started again but im going to wait till tomorrow and hopefully i can solve the problem... also the thing is im running out of the heavy duty brake fluid that i just bought also from bleeding it so many times... would it be ok if i used valvoline syn brake fluid? I really do hope its just this plunger and fork thing that i didnt line up correctly. The clutch does go all the way down to the floor by the way. I also tried both, tranny in gear and tranny in neutral. Umm im not really sure what you are describing on the feel of the car driving against the brakes, but i dont think i feel that. All i hear is the engine trying to turn over but it doesnt.

madkimchi:

Im not sure how everyone got it out but i had a really hard time gettign it out. I even went out to buy the hook kit but all the tips ended up breaking. I actually did get the snap ring out once and tried circling it to get the whole thing removed but it popped back in. I just cant believe i was only able to pop it out once, after that i couldnt get it out at all. I'm pretty frustrated right now and i think i have given up on it since the car is now like this. I think the only time i will do this is probably at a tech day where someone who can help me with it... if i really really want this mod then i might even go ahead and just buy one that is already modded for me. But for now im just trying to get my car started again and probably wont try it again anytime soon.

Thanks xviper once again for your input... if there are any more please do chime in. I will try again tomorrow and hopefully i can get it started.

 

I'm wondering if you have somehow caused some damage to the clutch/starter interlock at the clutch pedal under the dash. Maybe you've bent something and have moved it slightly or you've jiggle a wire loose. If you have the car in neutral, the starter should engage and start the car. It won't matter what position the clutch is in as long as the pedal can go to the floor to hit that interlock.
However, that is not your only problem. I think you have to remove the slave cylinder from the tranny housing and make sure the plunger is in the right slot on the release fork. Also the plunger must be fully retracted (with pedal up) before you try to put in on the tranny.

 

The plunger is fully retracted when i insert it into the tranny housing. Isnt the plunger a spring like component? So wouldnt it be fully retracted unless pushed in by hand or inserted into the tranny housing? All i know is the first time i put it in, it started leaking fluid from the tranny housing everytime i pumped the clutch... so i figured the plunger wasnt in the socket area where it should have been... So i took it out and put it back in and there is no more leak which makes me assume that the plunger is in the socket as we speak but the car just wont start for some reason. The noise though when i push in the clutch is the thing that is bothering me and making me wonder about it. Its like a rubber to rubber noise everytime i push in the clutch. I really hope i didnt go as far as to bend something or some loose wires because i wouldnt know where to start to fix it. I just hope its the plunger that isnt in place or something of that matter. If worse comes to worse... What can i tell the dealer and what possibly might they do for me if i were to bring it in. What should i tell them. I dont want them to void my warranty or charge me for something that i shouldnt have been working on.

 

I don't think anything there should be like a spring. If the plunger isn't seated and it jams on one pedal push, you can then push fluid past the seals.

 

well i just re-did everything, took out the slave cylinder and re-did the flush and this time for sure i know the ball joint is in the socket its suppose to be in because i put my finger through the slots on teh rubber boot to feel it and i know its in there but the car still wont turnover... it turns for like a sec or two again and just wont completely turn over. What could be the problem now? What do you think i should do?

 

quoted from gyrofx:

"Forth day, finally checks the clutch area and thinks that we did caused the problem - taking out that portion in the slave cylinder had something to do with it. Still can't determine what is wrong...calls me and tells me...I think your clutch area is messed up, there are metal pieces stuck in your clutch area. We need to take our your transmission and start from there. [this is the end of the day so they leave the car there]. dyhppy goes down to check out what the hell is going on, fearing that we actually did mess something up and that we need to spend thousands of dollars doing transmission work. Anyway dyhppy gets there and our guy show him what the mechanic found. Another mechanic was there also and they sat around and looked at the thing for a while. Peering into the uncovered boot area, they see a metal rod stuck in the clutch area. [puzzled, they don't know what to think of it] Then dyhppy jogged through his memory data base and asks to refresh him on the clutch diagram from Honda. [light bulb turns on]...That rod sitting in the clutch areas is actually the "Key" rod that opens and closes the clutch. It must have been bumped loose when we heard the "metallic bang on Sunday night". Then the other mechanic procceeds to help dyhppy to align the key rod back to its place via the use of some weird honda tools."

This is what i remember sort of happening last night... i dear hear a metallic bang last night when i was pumping the clutch and then i did see the clutch fluid begin to leak out... Now if my rod is misaligned would i be able to align it back myself? How do i take out that rubber boot... do i just yank it off? I want to see inside it. I really dont want to go down the path of having to flatbed this thing to honda. Wouldnt even know what to tell them what i was doing.

I also noticed when feeling the socket in the rubber boot with my finger that the socket was towards the bottom of the boot and not like dead center... should it be dead center? plus i feel an area i can pass my fingers through near the top left when poking my finger through to feel the inside of the boot.

How do i take this rubber boot thing out... i think it would help if i actually saw inside this thing.