Someone Explain Why Skip Shifting Is Bad
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1. I was one who had skip shifted all my life, but I stopped doing it after I read about not doing it years ago on another S2 site, with xviper giving me the heads up.
2. I try to be a good boy now, slipping up only occasionally.
3. I now try to "row" through the gear I'm skipping, but it sounds like even that is not the best, so now I will try to let the clutch out the slightest so those synchros think I'm doing right by them.
2. I try to be a good boy now, slipping up only occasionally.
3. I now try to "row" through the gear I'm skipping, but it sounds like even that is not the best, so now I will try to let the clutch out the slightest so those synchros think I'm doing right by them.
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Moving the shifter through the gears engages the syncros and slows down the input shaft. Lets say you're at 7,000 rpm in 1st gear and want to shift.
If you're skipping 2nd and going straight for 3rd, that 3rd gear syncro has to slow down the shaft from 7,000 rpm to 3,250 rpm in a short amount of time.
If you move the shifter through the gear, the 2nd gear syncro is going to do some work to slow down the shaft from 7,000 to 4,500 first, then the 3rd gear syncro only has to slow it down from 4,500 to 3,250.
So: not moving through the gears = 3rd gear syncro has to deal with a speed delta of 3,750 rpm.
Moving through the gears: 3rd gear syncro has to deal with a speed delta of 1,250 rpm.
What is going to be easier on the syncro?
If you're skipping 2nd and going straight for 3rd, that 3rd gear syncro has to slow down the shaft from 7,000 rpm to 3,250 rpm in a short amount of time.
If you move the shifter through the gear, the 2nd gear syncro is going to do some work to slow down the shaft from 7,000 to 4,500 first, then the 3rd gear syncro only has to slow it down from 4,500 to 3,250.
So: not moving through the gears = 3rd gear syncro has to deal with a speed delta of 3,750 rpm.
Moving through the gears: 3rd gear syncro has to deal with a speed delta of 1,250 rpm.
What is going to be easier on the syncro?
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transmissions, the universe and everything...geez you guys write good articles.. made me get a new master cylinder... keep reading this over the last few days...
the transmission does.. exactly what it's simple yet complicated name implies.. it transmits... it takes the power of the gods and transmits it to mother nature.. and all lives well in the universe, if, as a deity that we are, we change that flow of energy, someone somewhere is gonna suffer, usually the syncros.. hasn't changed / doesn't matter what gearbox...
this whirling torrent gets spun up to speed an then, odd as it sounds, it expects to gear up to the next level so it can achieve nirvana.. if you toss it in say 3rd, from 1st and though you idle lightly to lessen the suffering the innocent pays for your crimes...
executions begin when you go the opposite direction, like going to 4th an hit 2nd, or from 4th an hit 3rd.. self explanatory... game over..... you'll need more then quarters, get a broom and a dust pan
strangely enough it isn't designed for you to decide how it's suppose to function... that's why they invented automatics
the transmission does.. exactly what it's simple yet complicated name implies.. it transmits... it takes the power of the gods and transmits it to mother nature.. and all lives well in the universe, if, as a deity that we are, we change that flow of energy, someone somewhere is gonna suffer, usually the syncros.. hasn't changed / doesn't matter what gearbox...
this whirling torrent gets spun up to speed an then, odd as it sounds, it expects to gear up to the next level so it can achieve nirvana.. if you toss it in say 3rd, from 1st and though you idle lightly to lessen the suffering the innocent pays for your crimes...
executions begin when you go the opposite direction, like going to 4th an hit 2nd, or from 4th an hit 3rd.. self explanatory... game over..... you'll need more then quarters, get a broom and a dust pan
strangely enough it isn't designed for you to decide how it's suppose to function... that's why they invented automatics
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Example: redline first, clutch in, shift 2-3-4, release clutch.
Rowing is the SAFE way to skip gears, as far as mechanicals are concerned.
I regularly row after getting on the freeway....wind out 3rd, row 4-5-6. Been doing it for 120k, and assure you it is safe for the trans.
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Originally Posted by james0933' timestamp='1370703302' post='22595224
Rowing through the gear without engaging the clutch is still ok, correct? Or not ideal?
Example: redline first, clutch in, shift 2-3-4, release clutch.
Rowing is the SAFE way to skip gears, as far as mechanicals are concerned.
I regularly row after getting on the freeway....wind out 3rd, row 4-5-6. Been doing it for 120k, and assure you it is safe for the trans.
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2. I don't need to use 3rd gear when I'm already going 50 mph in 2nd, I could actually skip 3rd and 4th, b/c 5th gear and 50 mph does well.
3. But, I don't, now that I'm "educated." I have been warned about the perils, and I will heed the warning!