Looking at the definition below I would say that if there is any piece that creates a Venturi effect it is the taper into the air tube. Many of the filters (JR, Comptech, etc) have that feature and my guess is that an air guide to the box would have no affect on it.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Prolene
[B]Maybe you mean the Mugen is designed to produce the venturi effect?

 

Greg, a high-tech factory with bright employees doesn't mean great products -- I know, I work in the aerospace biz. Richard, a great racing history doesn't mean great products (have you driven a Ford lately?). The only thing that proves a product is great is 3rd-party testing and evaluation.

Luckily, for most Spoon and Mugen products, such evaluation has been done (either here, by board members, or in the car mags), and the basic conclusion is that both choices are excellent. Neither choice will leave you disappointed (performance-wise) or worrying about quality/reliability down the road. So the only real difference is the design goal of the companies:

Spoon: Single Design Goal = peak performance. All other considerations effectively ignored.

Mugen: Multiple Design Goals = balanced performance, fit and finish, style. Think of a "type R" factory design.

So before dropping your cash, figure out what you want to do with your car, do your homework, and you'll be able to buy with confidence. Considering we're talking about highly tuned, imported parts for a specialized (low-volume) market, I think we have an embarassment of riches to choose from.

John

 

So spoon does have the performance advantage??? I'm curiuos trying to make the same sort of decisions myself. Maybe i'll do spoon exhaust/headers/throttle body with the mugen intake just cause everybody seems to be in love with the thing.

 

Mugen relationship with Honda is like AMG relationship to Mercedes? Would this be correct. Did Mugen proposed to Honda a V8 Mugen developped original engine for the 2004 NSX? Didn't one of the top Honda Engineer left Honda to form Mugen and work closely with Honda on their racing development? Mugen was mentioned in the S2000 paperback development book. IMO.

Tan

 

That's all very nice and comforting, but I just really want the max performance part! Which is it? Can anyone make an objective comparison of Exhaust and Headers...sounds like everyone's already got their mind made up about the intake!

 

ok Greg, all I have to say is this!

In my opinion, and i am sure in other as well as yourself, the three top companies for honda motors and R&D practices are as follows:

1 - Honda Motor Corp. 2 - Mugen 3 - Spoon

Now, you say that Spoon products are rather timid, because of the fact that they are remanufactured honda parts. You say that Mugen is so good because of their resources and R&D. But, it is a 100% fact that Honda does the most R&D of any of the three companies.

Now, instead of developing a huge R&D project to develop parts for the S2K, why not feed off of Honda's R&D, which in my opinion is much more larger and better than Mugen. That is what Spoon does, and that is why their parts for far more better in productivity, and effeicancy.

To Expander, if you want total peak power out of your S2K, do with Spoon. Mugen's dual exhaust makes no power, and their header only gives mid range toque. Spoon on the other hand makes good products with good results. Their exhaust makes a good 10-12 hp alone. Their header makes also about 9-11 hp too(from what I have read).

Greg, no offense, but I will always go with spoon. It all comes down to preference. My preference is that I want my car to not only sound good, but also go fast. Mugen doesn't offer that....

 

You guys...

This topic is so dead, it's pushing daisies.

Buy whatever you feel suits your needs, and don't settle for anything less.

If you think Spoon Sports products are the best, get them. If you feel Mugen makes the best products, get them. Vote with your pocketbook- what they really want anyway.

Just don't sling half-truths and hearsay around. Both companies get hurt in the long run. They are not comparable companies- even if you think they make comparable products.

 

My sentiments exactly, thanks for the advice.

 

Pappy, your choice in products would never be offensive to me. All I have ever suggested is that you buy what makes you happy, what you want to do with the car and nothing more, nothing less.

I believe Mugen makes the best stuff, but others may not...it's a great big world out there, lots of choices...make those choices wisely and above all, enjoy the snot out of the car...that's what it's all about!