S2000 Under The Hood S2000 Technical and Mechanical discussions.

Threw a Rod

Thread Tools
 
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:48 AM
  #1  
cameroncarnes's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
Default Threw a Rod

I'm not really sure of all the details. I had it towed into Honda yesterday and they told me that either I had to buy a new motor or find someone else to rebuild it? Why won't Honda work on their own motor??? Well, I figure since it's going to be yanked apart, I might as well do something cool. Any good piston and rod combos out there? Thanks everyone. Say a prayer for Stacie.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:19 AM
  #2  
jyeung528's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 8,595
Likes: 54
From: Temple City
Default

how do you know you threw a rod?

what happened?
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:28 AM
  #3  
Stratocaster's Avatar
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 11,399
Likes: 19
Default

If you threw a rod, the block is most likely wasted.

I would guess that most dealers now a days, don't build motors. That requires skill and special tools. The dealers are part swappers.

Find a good used motor. I personally would install a new short block. That is because I have done the rebuild thing before and the car died and left me snowbound 1000 miles from the shop. I swore to never again do that.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:33 AM
  #4  
jyeung528's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 8,595
Likes: 54
From: Temple City
Default

Originally Posted by Stratocaster' date='Mar 20 2007, 11:28 AM
If you threw a rod, the block is most likely wasted.

I would guess that most dealers now a days, don't build motors. That requires skill and special tools. The dealers are part swappers.

Find a good used motor. I personally would install a new short block. That is because I have done the rebuild thing before and the car died and left me snowbound 1000 miles from the shop. I swore to never again do that.
can't dealers buy motors that are already built from the factory? like an assembled motor, thats like part-swapping.

where did you do you rebuild? maybe the rebuild job was poor...

i would assume a proper rebuild is just as good as a used/new motor.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:48 AM
  #5  
Stratocaster's Avatar
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 11,399
Likes: 19
Default

Yes, they can install a short block, they just can't build a short block. They may have the skills, for the dealers don't want to invest the time.

So rebuilding the block he has is what I was talking about. That will take more skill and be roughtly about the same price I would guess. I have a few motors that I will be building, so I will find out soon enough.

The motor I had rebuild was years ago in a Blazer. I just swore I would not cheap out and that i would do it right. It took years to recover from the additional cost of buying a new car while in another state. So to save 1000 it cost me 10000.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:50 AM
  #6  
jyeung528's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 8,595
Likes: 54
From: Temple City
Default

Originally Posted by Stratocaster' date='Mar 20 2007, 11:48 AM
Yes, they can install a short block, they just can't build a short block. They may have the skills, for the dealers don't want to invest the time.

So rebuilding the block he has is what I was talking about. That will take more skill and be roughtly about the same price I would guess. I have a few motors that I will be building, so I will find out soon enough.

The motor I had rebuild was years ago in a Blazer. I just swore I would not cheap out and that i would do it right. It took years to recover from the additional cost of buying a new car while in another state. So to save 1000 it cost me 10000.
sounds like the rebuild on your blazer wasn't done properly.

in the end, if i threw i rod, i would buy a used motor, or one that is already assembled from the factory as well.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:58 AM
  #7  
Stratocaster's Avatar
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 11,399
Likes: 19
Default

Originally Posted by jyeung528' date='Mar 20 2007, 01:50 PM
sounds like the rebuild on your blazer wasn't done properly.

in the end, if i threw i rod, i would buy a used motor, or one that is already assembled from the factory as well.
Honda sells the bottom 1/2 of the motor (short block) assembled. The head comes in parts. You just can't buy one compeltely assembled. the reason is that to install it in the car, you have to remove the head.

The only thing that stops me from buying the used motor, is it's history. I would hate to buy a motor only to find out the prior owner treated it like %#$*. I mean the car got to the junk year some how.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 12:10 PM
  #8  
jyeung528's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 8,595
Likes: 54
From: Temple City
Default

Originally Posted by Stratocaster' date='Mar 20 2007, 11:58 AM
Honda sells the bottom 1/2 of the motor (short block) assembled. The head comes in parts. You just can't buy one compeltely assembled. the reason is that to install it in the car, you have to remove the head.

The only thing that stops me from buying the used motor, is it's history. I would hate to buy a motor only to find out the prior owner treated it like %#$*. I mean the car got to the junk year some how.
well in that case, i would do the rebuild. assuming a head shop is building the head.

if the short-block is assembled...and you get the head built by a reputable shop, the rebuild is practically done.

do you know how/why your rebuild was messed up on the blazer?
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 12:20 PM
  #9  
Stratocaster's Avatar
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 11,399
Likes: 19
Default

I agree. That is what I have had done. Bought new short block (2K) sent head to machine shop for inspection and reconditioning if needed. Then I put it all together and installed it in the car.

No, I just knew that I was 1000 miles from home, in a broken down truck, in a snow storm, brfore Christmas. I just traded it as is to get another car under me to get back to work. It was covered under the warranty, but 1000 miles away (In MI, shop in TX) did not help anything.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 12:22 PM
  #10  
jyeung528's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 8,595
Likes: 54
From: Temple City
Default

Originally Posted by Stratocaster' date='Mar 20 2007, 12:20 PM
I agree. That is what I have had done. Bought new short block (2K) sent head to machine shop for inspection and reconditioning if needed. Then I put it all together and installed it in the car.

No, I just knew that I was 1000 miles from home, in a broken down truck, in a snow storm, brfore Christmas. I just traded it as is to get another car under me to get back to work. It was covered under the warranty, but 1000 miles away (In MI, shop in TX) did not help anything.
so the DEALER did the rebuild?

wow. i can't believe they messed that up.
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:41 AM.