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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SIIK2NR,Oct 2 2006, 04:45 AM
It can also happen when the top is cold or stiff, it will not go down as far as when it's been out in the sun.


This happens a lot. How did the rip happen?
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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Okay...found the thread with pictures:

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...0&#entry7399444
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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Thanks for the thread..... my initial guess was also the latches when it was coming down somehow got in the way and ripped the top.I've put the top down many times with the latches unsecured to the top before....so....


And also a little while ago i saw a thread saying do you latch your top or not and was alot of people that doesn't latch it.

and also my top was malfunctioning when it happened. top didn't want to go down all the way....same as last week but that time i had them latched.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted04S2k,Oct 2 2006, 03:46 PM
Thanks for the thread..... my initial guess was also the latches when it was coming down somehow got in the way and ripped the top.but I've put the top down many times with the latches unsecured to the top before....so....


And also a little while ago i saw a thread saying do you latch your top or not and was alot of people that doesn't latch it.
hmmm...I don't think thats a good thing and probably not going to help your case if you're going to bring this up for warranty work. The latches are supposed to be locked when operating the top.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted04S2k,Oct 2 2006, 05:29 PM
yes..sometimes i latch it back on sometimes i don't....I don't think that has anything to do with it

alot of people here do both.
I still think it is the latches. Read down a ways into the thread that S2KenC linked. I may be wrong but I think it happens when the latches are stuck perpendicular to the folding top. Thats why it hangs up initially and then when you fool with it, it punches through.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Oops, I see you already read that part. Now you've got me curious. I'm about to leave the office so I will have to check it out (while resisting the urge to punch it through )
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted04S2k,Oct 2 2006, 03:46 PM
and also my top was malfunctioning when it happened. top didn't want to go down all the way....same as last week but that time i had them latched.
Your top not going all the way down probably has nothing to do with the latches I'm thinking. I think the elastic straps on your soft top are wearing. Here's a product that replaces the thin elastic straps for something meatier:

http://www.modifry.com/products/ctf/index.htm

Click on the details section to see more pictures of how a worn elastic strap can cause the top to not fold properly.

Probably a combination of your top not going all the way down and folding awkwardly (again...because of the worn elastic straps) and the latches not being locked are the reason why you now have a hole in your roof.

By the way....I had to replace my elastic straps because mine were worn after only 1 year and 15k miles. I raise and lower my top alot. I replaced it with the product I linked above.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by S2KenC,Oct 2 2006, 02:57 PM
Your top not going all the way down probably has nothing to do with the latches I'm thinking. I think the elastic straps on your soft top are wearing. Here's a product that replaces the thin elastic straps for something meatier:

http://www.modifry.com/products/ctf/index.htm

Click on the details section to see more pictures of how a worn elastic strap can cause the top to not fold properly.

Probably a combination of your top not going all the way down and folding awkwardly (again...because of the worn elastic straps) and the latches not being locked are the reason why you now have a hole in your roof.

By the way....I had to replace my elastic straps because mine were worn after only 1 year and 15k miles. I raise and lower my top alot. I replaced it with the product I linked above.
yes sir...you are correct...took the car in this morning and got a call this afternoon from the dealer..they said it was indeed the elastic being worn out.they said they would replace the top under warrenty.



Thaks everyone
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Old May 23, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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This just happened to me as well.

Yesterday I put my top down after work as usual, but noticed that the top got stuck about 6 inches from the bottom. Thinking maybe the canvas got folded up weird, I raised it to the half way point, then lowered it again.

I then heard a POP. Raising the top, I see that both latches have undone themselves and were hanging loose. I tried to close the left latch, but noticed that the plastic tab holding the latch in the close position has broken off.

I always close my latches when lowering the roof - so I was surprised to see them dangling when I raised my top. Looking at the rip spots (which are the EXACT same position as ENTHRALLED's pictures, and experimenting with lowering the stop slowly, I am convinced that this is a malfunction.

Here's what happened:
1) Top attempts to lower down.
2) Elastic band is worn so does not pull metal bar down.
3) While metal bar is "too high" as in this picture, top mechanism tries to push the latches through the fabric. Note that the two latches show pressure points in that picture.
4) Latches punch through the fabric. The pressure forces open both latches, and actually breaks the left latch.

I will see my dealer soon to have it fixed under HondaCare extended warranty. I will report back on any news.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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HondaCare will cover the replacement of the top under extended warranty. Thank god, because it would have cost over $4k out of my pocket.

I highly recommend those with loose elastic straps to replace it quickly.
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