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BEWARE THE "CEL" FROM HELL (rant)

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Old Nov 25, 2019 | 11:21 AM
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Thanks for sharing. If I run into this, I will be the one fixing it myself, so good to have this info
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by cosmomiller
Scrool down for the start of this how-to...had some photo problems at first.

P1457 is a very common code in the S2000.

Just to start off here, if you have a P1457 IT IS NOT THE GAS CAP!

A loose or non-sealing cas cap due to warped filler neck threads will set a P1456.
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by starchland
Just curious why you didn’t go to Billman instead
I was there, but I hadn't told him about the problem beforehand and he did not have his 'smoker' handy. As it turned out, smoking the system did not reveal the location of the problem.... it was only when the tech took everything apart that the o-ring was discovered.
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Emil St-Hilaire
How much did it end up costing you,for that stupid O-ring???
Emil, just under $1,700US. Like I've always been told, education ain't cheap.
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck S
Maybe I missed it?

Which O-ring? Where? Part number?

-- Chuck
Because I didn't get to sit and watch, I have no way of knowing which o-ring it was, although I was led to believe it was in front of either the 1st solenoid or the charcoal canister (which, by the way, was replaced twice as the first one would not hold vacuum). They gave me the 'bad' o-ring.... the inside diameter is about 3/4".... but there is no referenced part number on the repair order.
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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by PokS2k
Roy, sorry to hear about your problems.

I had the same code. I guess I am lucky so far in that I took the car to a local person that Gene recommended and he immediately said it was the solenoids. He ordered the parts from Honda’s “classic” parts warehouse in California. Took about a week and $500 to get the part and job done, but so far so good.
Jim, the solenoids are what Honda's Service Bulletin direct the mechanics to go after, and apparently they are usually the culprit. In this case, that Service Bulletin prevented the tech from even looking at anything else in the process. Smoking the system evidently did not identify the point of the problem, and with the addition of the initial defective charcoal canister, the issue just compounded itself.

I can also verify that Billman was able to 'scope the solenoid/valves when he was working on the car, and that all of the solenoids were working as they should be. I doubt that the Honda dealer's tech ever tried to listen to those valves.



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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by windhund116
In my experience, many times O-rings are a bigger issue in winter. When rubber hardens and sealing becomes more of a problem.
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by canberra
Emil, just under $1,700US. Like I've always been told, education ain't cheap.
Expensive O-ring.
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Old Nov 27, 2019 | 09:15 AM
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Glad to hear it was fixed and that the dealer actually worked with you on the repair and cost, a lot of dealers would of been it’s your cost.


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Old Nov 28, 2019 | 04:42 AM
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Thanks for sharing this tip, Roy. Have not had any of the CEL problems thus far, but am now informed My '03 is approaching 100k miles.
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