Two editorials/opinions from today's Houston Chronicle:

Intelligent design: Creation explained or quackery?

'Intelligent design' a way to smuggle Christianity into schoolrooms

 

Thanks for the links. It's been awhile since I've read the Chronicle. (It always puzzled me that the Sunday paper could be purchased on Saturday afternoon. )

I'm surprised to see that Michael Behe is still slugging away even though his arguments have been shown to be seriously flawed, and downright silly in some cases.
The writer of the second article is confusing Intelligent Design with Creationism. Although both ideas have no factual, logical, or rational leg to stand on, they are not as closely related as the writer suggests.

 

I am not trying to challenge you or anything, but this is my first exposure to "Intelligent Design" and I'd like to read more about it. Do you have any links to any counter arguments to what Michael Behe said in his article? Or just any more information for or against the arguments. Thanks.

 

I'm sure that there are some links, but I don't have any. He doesn't hold much credibility within mainstream science, so I don't think that anyone has critiqued his ideas in any great detail. Behe's book, "Darwin's Black Box" is his defense of his position. It's available in paperback and it's relatively inexpensive, if you're interested in reading what he has to say.

 

Never say that life does not give you second chances!

Have you heard of the new "Pastafarian" religious movement? They believe that the universe was created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Sounds strange, but if you examine these beliefs in more detail, it all seems to make sense...

They are now trying to become part of the school curriculum in Kansas and apparently have received some support by members of the school board already.

And don't say they won't put their money where their mouth is.

When are you converting?

 

You beat me to it - I was about to post that link!

Folks, it is a fact that evolution occurs, with no room for any discussion. The precise mechanisms by which it occurs are being studied and debated within the life sciences, and there are a number of theories. This is an exact parallel with the Theory of Gravity - just like evolution, we see it occurring, we can study and measure it, but all of the mechanisms behind it are still unclear. Does the fact that scientists call it the Theory Of Gravity mean that we be open-minded about the existence of gravity?

JonasM

 

[QUOTE=Ulrich,Aug 23 2005, 08:40 AM] Never say that life does not give you second chances!

 

As one of those involved in the debate, I can tell you that if there were an Olympics for understatements, you would take the gold.

 

If you tell me what JREF is, I'll proibably say "no."

 

James Randi (the former magician - The Amazing Randi) Education Foundation, They're an international groups of skeptics.