Prepare to be surprised. Other than a well-intentioned baptismal when I was an infant, I have no such background. I was left to form my own conclusions regarding religion.

Early American history has been a fascination of mine since I was quite young and first learned that my ancestors had settled in what would become the State of Maine in the seventeenth century. Philosophy has also been an interest of mine since I was a teenager. Neither of which has ever failed to support my jaudiced and suspicious view of religion in government.

 

I think what he believes in is the power of buzz words, and I'm alway turned off by demagoguery. I don't have a link, but I'm sure the speech is floating around in cyberspace somewhere.

 

I watched The Big Bounce the other night

Twice they used this line.

God is an imaginary friend for grownups!

Twice



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Although it's not from a movie, one of my favorites on the subject is, "We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."

 

Okay, just a while ago you guys were talking about "Deep Throat", and now it's McCarthy's turn! Just because you're Vintage doesn't mean that your subject matter must be as well!

 

That's true Cordy, but, if you don't learn from the past, you're destined to repeat the same mistakes.

 

Then lets learn from Mary Jo Kopeckny! She'd be 65 next year (I read somewhere). That schmuck who killed her and then had his family whitewash the incident has his FAT HEAD all over Al Jareeza, telling them what evil people we are. Disgusting.

That's the old. Now listen to some NEW--this is copied from an Iraqi who happens to blog on his own forum. Ali says:

Now, and thanks to other humans, not from my area, religion and who don't even speak my language, I and all Iraqis have the real chance to make the change. Now I OWN my home and I can decide who's going to run things in it and how and I won't waste that chance. Tomorrow as I cast my vote, I'll regain my home. I'll regain my humanity and my dignity, as I stand and fulfill part of my responsibilities to this part of the large brotherhood of humanity. Tomorrow I'll say I'M IRAQI AND I'M PROUD, as being Iraqi this time bears a different meaning in my mind. It's being an active and good part of humanity. Tomorrow I and the Iraqis that are going to vote will rule, not the politicians we're going to vote for, as it's our decision and they'll work for us this time and if we don't like them we'll kick them out! Tomorrow my heart will race my hand to the box. Tomorrow I'll race even the sun to the voting centre, my Ka'aba and my Mecca. I'm so excited and so happy that I can't even feel the fear I though I would have at this time. I can't wait until tomorrow.

You're right, Afghanistan and Iraq will still be HELL for some time. But reading the above may shed some new light on the subject.

 

I take this stuff with a grain of salt. Can you authenticate this? The english, grammar, etc. seems too good. Better than most Americans.

 

Yes, authenticated. This guy is actually pretty well known. He made the rounds a couple of weeks ago with the NYT and other papers. He, not surprisingly, complained about the one-sided journalism he was treated to by the NYT reporter. I think that he's got a brother, also with a web site. Oh, I remember--one of the journalists posited that he was being paid by the U.S., or was a U.S. spy, or something like that. Hey, that's a GREAT way to get your news story KILLED.

You can find his web site here:

http://iraqilibe.blogspot.com/

Very interesting stuff, from a totally different perspective.

 

Cool thanks. I'll check it out.