The Killer Angels
Originally Posted by ralper,Aug 28 2006, 08:23 PM
Buford seems the true professional, "get the job done" kind of soldier. Stuart seems the actor, the charleton.
Originally Posted by Legal Bill,Aug 27 2006, 09:03 PM
John Buford. From the moment you meet him you know he is a professional soilder. From the minute he learns that he has run into the confederate skirmishers, he knows the gravity of the situation. He strikes me as man discouraged by his superiors. He has little faith in them and that opinion seems to be the result of a number of disapointments in the field as well as his personal assessments. What else strikes you about him?
Originally Posted by Vitito,Aug 28 2006, 07:38 PM
Stuart went "off track" prior to the battle, vanity, he failed to do his duty, which was to locate and report on the movements of the Union Army. He let his commander down, and the whole army, with his "joyriding". Was Longstreet correct, should Lee have "stomped" him?
Originally Posted by ralper,Aug 28 2006, 08:23 PM
Buford seems the true professional, "get the job done" kind of soldier. Stuart seems the actor, the charleton.
Prior to Gettysburg, Lee (J. Shaara) described Stuart's performance as indicated in GODS AND GENERALS:
Just before the Battle of Second Manassas (Bull Run):
Lee: "General Stuart has proven himself very valuable again."
Longstreet: "I do wish...begging your pardon, General, but he needs to be kept on a shorter leash. He has a great love of headlines. It may cause some problems."
Lee: "General Stuart has his ways...certainly different from our ways, you and me. But he is young, and he inspires the men. And if the newspapers love him, then he can inspire the people as well. There is no harm in that."
Originally Posted by ralper,Aug 28 2006, 09:11 PM
The interesting dynamic here is that Stuart is Lee's favorite son. Very much like his loyalty to Virginia, Lee's loyalty to Stuart will prevent him from taking action. Is this a good thing?
"...And Thou knowest O Lord, that when Thou didst decide that the Confederacy should not succeed, Thou hadst first to remove Thy servant, Stonewall Jackson."
Who is ultimately responsible for the actions of the Army of Northern Virginia?
Originally Posted by Vitito,Aug 28 2006, 08:38 PM
Lee does take action with Stuart, as we'll see. Stuart is a man, makes mistakes. Are Stuart's failures the cause for the confederacy's defeat at Gettysburg? Does a good leader "stomp" or court-martial a General for such a mistake? What effect will Stuart's "court-martial" have on the army? Particuarly after it lost it's best field commander just prior to Gettysburg, Stonewall Jackson (May, 1863)?
That is an interesting question, but were Stuarts actions simply mistakes? I think not. His "joyriding" in this case seems more than just mistakes. I think Lee should have seen this more clearly and reigned him in.
I don't want to jump too far ahead but the episode with Stuart offering his sword to Lee seems insincere at best except that Lee either doesn't see or doesn't want to see it.
Originally Posted by ralper,Aug 28 2006, 10:34 PM
....That is an interesting question, but were Stuarts actions simply mistakes? I think not. His "joyriding" in this case seems more than just mistakes. .....
Yes, Stuart was seeking headlines but didn't the Army of Northern VA need that boost from both cavalry and infantry?
Originally Posted by paS2K,Aug 29 2006, 12:28 AM
Yes, Stuart was seeking headlines but didn't the Army of Northern VA need that boost from both cavalry and infantry?










