Old S2000 Drivers
Well, guys, I
this board, and I really don't agree with all of MacGyver's post. When I first joined last spring, I watched some of the older members trounce on newer members with obnoxious replies and haughty attitudes. I'm not seeing as much of that this year, and I believe that's a serious improvement! If you don't have something constructive to say, stow it.
I haven't actually been to a meet yet, but what MacGyver says is probably right. With the S getting cheaper out there to get 2nd hand, etc., more immature drivers are going to "spoil" things... That's a little sad, I guess, but sounds like the natural course of events for an affordable car.
As MacGyver says, maturity (or lack thereof) doesn't correspond with age. I think we older "geezers" offer perspective when it comes to the ownership of our cars, and the young turks tend to think outside the box.
Bottom line, guys, is that I think we need to just lighten up a little. There is a wealth of information still being exchanged here, though it surely makes sense that it's not as vibrant as it might've been two years ago. I think the folks here are, for the most part, really super and I enjoy communicating with them.
Best wishes!
this board, and I really don't agree with all of MacGyver's post. When I first joined last spring, I watched some of the older members trounce on newer members with obnoxious replies and haughty attitudes. I'm not seeing as much of that this year, and I believe that's a serious improvement! If you don't have something constructive to say, stow it.I haven't actually been to a meet yet, but what MacGyver says is probably right. With the S getting cheaper out there to get 2nd hand, etc., more immature drivers are going to "spoil" things... That's a little sad, I guess, but sounds like the natural course of events for an affordable car.
As MacGyver says, maturity (or lack thereof) doesn't correspond with age. I think we older "geezers" offer perspective when it comes to the ownership of our cars, and the young turks tend to think outside the box.
Bottom line, guys, is that I think we need to just lighten up a little. There is a wealth of information still being exchanged here, though it surely makes sense that it's not as vibrant as it might've been two years ago. I think the folks here are, for the most part, really super and I enjoy communicating with them.
Best wishes!
I'm 41 and think that cars are the great equalizer. Some people are car people and some are not. Age is immaterial except that it changes your perceptions of styling trends and aesthetics. I think the S2000 is as close to perfect a roadster as any I've seen or driven. I also think Honda builds the best naturally aspirated, small-displacement engines ever built (bar-none) and probably
some of the most sophisticated suspensions for cars that have to be daily drivers as well as weekend racers. This is my fifth Honda so I am admittedly biased. P.S. I love modified cars and probably won't leave the S2000 unmolested forever, just have some concerns about the durability of the S's drivetrain with forced induction. P.P.S. great forum!
some of the most sophisticated suspensions for cars that have to be daily drivers as well as weekend racers. This is my fifth Honda so I am admittedly biased. P.S. I love modified cars and probably won't leave the S2000 unmolested forever, just have some concerns about the durability of the S's drivetrain with forced induction. P.P.S. great forum!
This is one of the best posts in a while. I am only (?) 28 years old, and I echo a lot of the prior statements. I liked the board a little better a year or 2 ago, but change is good, and other's opinions and thoughts are too. The beauty of a board like this is that you don't have to click on a topic if you don't care about it. Some of my opinions...
I haven't been to a meet yet, and don't know if I'll ever go. To me, it seems like too many young people. I would rather go to a small meet and talk to / hang out with the "old" people. First off, all old people on here are pretty cool. Second, older people are usually very interesting, with great life stories. I'd rather hear about what you do, your family, hobbies, etc... than look under your hood at your new intake. Also, the maturity thing is an issue with me. I'm not a snob or anything like that - far from it. But, I am a professional, and I conduct myself in a certain way in public, and I want to be around others who do, too.
I was also on the "old site" S2000fans.com It was great. I still think about some of the classic posts. I remember a few days before the car arrived in Oct 1999, some kid posted that he and his dad, a mechanic, had to fix something 9in the passenger footwell) in like 200 cars in a lot in Jersey. He said he sat in them, all this other crap. The entire board (all 50 of us) went nuts, telling him he was full of it, flaming him. I still wonder if he was lying or not.
The 48 year old dude with the "hot" 40 year old girlfriend - you, sir, sound like you would be fun to have a few beers with.
If I were rich, I wouldn't have a S2000. I would have what, to me, is a big S2000 - a 360 Modena. I'm not loyal to Honda - this is my first one. I am loyal to the principle of the S2000. If Toyota were the ones that built it 4 years ago, I'd have bought a toyota. If GM were the ones that... - no, nevermind that. Point is, the Z3, boxster, slk, miata, TT, all serve different purposes - what I lump together VERY BROADLY as not having the soul, balls, visceral-ity of the S2000.
Again, what a great post. Well, time to put the top down in beautiful Harrisburg PA and head home.
Mike
I haven't been to a meet yet, and don't know if I'll ever go. To me, it seems like too many young people. I would rather go to a small meet and talk to / hang out with the "old" people. First off, all old people on here are pretty cool. Second, older people are usually very interesting, with great life stories. I'd rather hear about what you do, your family, hobbies, etc... than look under your hood at your new intake. Also, the maturity thing is an issue with me. I'm not a snob or anything like that - far from it. But, I am a professional, and I conduct myself in a certain way in public, and I want to be around others who do, too.
I was also on the "old site" S2000fans.com It was great. I still think about some of the classic posts. I remember a few days before the car arrived in Oct 1999, some kid posted that he and his dad, a mechanic, had to fix something 9in the passenger footwell) in like 200 cars in a lot in Jersey. He said he sat in them, all this other crap. The entire board (all 50 of us) went nuts, telling him he was full of it, flaming him. I still wonder if he was lying or not.
The 48 year old dude with the "hot" 40 year old girlfriend - you, sir, sound like you would be fun to have a few beers with.
If I were rich, I wouldn't have a S2000. I would have what, to me, is a big S2000 - a 360 Modena. I'm not loyal to Honda - this is my first one. I am loyal to the principle of the S2000. If Toyota were the ones that built it 4 years ago, I'd have bought a toyota. If GM were the ones that... - no, nevermind that. Point is, the Z3, boxster, slk, miata, TT, all serve different purposes - what I lump together VERY BROADLY as not having the soul, balls, visceral-ity of the S2000.
Again, what a great post. Well, time to put the top down in beautiful Harrisburg PA and head home.
Mike
I get to be 60 in July, gawd knows when that happened, kinda sneaks up on you!
I remember when you couldn't go for a drive in anything without a full box of tools in the boot (trunk), spare top and bottom hoses cos they were always busting, or tape to tape 'em up, and canisters of water to get you home. The list goes on! You fully expected on any reasonable run to be on the side of the road at some stage with the bonnet up and you were rarely disappointed. removing, gapping and cleaning spark plugs seemed to be a never ending pastime, as did adjusting the points gap. Anyone else remember that little fibre washer in the points that you dropped and couldn't find or fitted in the wrong place and spent an hour wondering why the car wouldn't start?
Modern cars = awesome!... but you'll still get someone with hopelessly rose tinted specs trying to tell you that they don't make cars like they used to!!
I remember when you couldn't go for a drive in anything without a full box of tools in the boot (trunk), spare top and bottom hoses cos they were always busting, or tape to tape 'em up, and canisters of water to get you home. The list goes on! You fully expected on any reasonable run to be on the side of the road at some stage with the bonnet up and you were rarely disappointed. removing, gapping and cleaning spark plugs seemed to be a never ending pastime, as did adjusting the points gap. Anyone else remember that little fibre washer in the points that you dropped and couldn't find or fitted in the wrong place and spent an hour wondering why the car wouldn't start?
Modern cars = awesome!... but you'll still get someone with hopelessly rose tinted specs trying to tell you that they don't make cars like they used to!!
I'm 49 and I don't feel age has anything to do with this car. I own 2 Z cars 260 and 280. I didn't have any intention of buying another car, but when I saw the S I told my wife this car intrigues me the way the old Z's do. She said buy it and I'm in love ever since. This is one bad A***S car and I don't have any regrets.
'02 Spa Yellow #9452......... Plain beauty.
'02 Spa Yellow #9452......... Plain beauty.
michael,
Your comment about never having joined a meet, and probably will never do so due to too many immature people there, is the exact sentiment I have always tried to fight. During my first few meets, I was more than likely the youngest person there, but there were quite a few in my age range (early to mid thirties). The ages went up to the 50s and 60s, for sure, but the sub-30 crowd was missing. I enjoyed those meets, we always had a lot of laughs and stories to share.
As the car became less and less exclusive, a larger element of less than mature people began showing up to these meets. We quickly lost the 50- and 60-somethings, and for good reason...they did not enjoy meeting up with us only to play wet nurse to someone who hadn't yet learned you don't pull donuts in a parking lot across the street from a traffic cop (or anywhere in public, for that matter). As the age range moved lower, so did the number of older attendees.
Now our meets are generally small in size with mostly close friends getting together with the occasional outsider. As we learn to trust someone new, they are invited more and more often, with the riff raff being asked to join only for large events where exclusion would seem quite rude. I look forward to the meets, but if things start to get out of control and no one seems to care about it, I quietly pack up my toys and head for some roads as far in the other direction as I can find. No need to be a part of the accident just waiting to happen.
So, I say go to some meets, make a few friends offline, choose the ones you think are relatively safe and mature, then ask them and only them to get together. You can always leave, but I think it's worth it to at least see who's out there.
Your comment about never having joined a meet, and probably will never do so due to too many immature people there, is the exact sentiment I have always tried to fight. During my first few meets, I was more than likely the youngest person there, but there were quite a few in my age range (early to mid thirties). The ages went up to the 50s and 60s, for sure, but the sub-30 crowd was missing. I enjoyed those meets, we always had a lot of laughs and stories to share.
As the car became less and less exclusive, a larger element of less than mature people began showing up to these meets. We quickly lost the 50- and 60-somethings, and for good reason...they did not enjoy meeting up with us only to play wet nurse to someone who hadn't yet learned you don't pull donuts in a parking lot across the street from a traffic cop (or anywhere in public, for that matter). As the age range moved lower, so did the number of older attendees.
Now our meets are generally small in size with mostly close friends getting together with the occasional outsider. As we learn to trust someone new, they are invited more and more often, with the riff raff being asked to join only for large events where exclusion would seem quite rude. I look forward to the meets, but if things start to get out of control and no one seems to care about it, I quietly pack up my toys and head for some roads as far in the other direction as I can find. No need to be a part of the accident just waiting to happen.
So, I say go to some meets, make a few friends offline, choose the ones you think are relatively safe and mature, then ask them and only them to get together. You can always leave, but I think it's worth it to at least see who's out there.
michaelr, check out this thread, and come out to this meet. It will have a lot of fun old farts there (myself included):
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?...threadid=104006
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?...threadid=104006







