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Old 10-04-2005, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by valentine,Oct 3 2005, 01:01 PM
^^^Sometimes I am reminded that it took thousands and thousands of years for humans to evolve from the cave dwelling state and it will probably take thousands and thousands more for us to evolve any higher than where we now find ourselves.
Our tools and our toys may have gotten fancier, but on most days I don't think we've evolved all that much from our cave dwelling days.
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Originally Posted by dean,Oct 4 2005, 07:07 AM
Our tools and our toys may have gotten fancier, but on most days I don't think we've evolved all that much from our cave dwelling days.


You know as I try to envisualize humanities next great evolutionary leap, I seem to find walls everywhere. What if it's a genetic impossibility to imagine it? Or an imposed one?


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Originally Posted by fltsfshr,Oct 4 2005, 08:33 AM


You know as I try to envisualize humanities next great evolutionary leap, I seem to find walls everywhere. What if it's a genetic impossibility to imagine it? Or an imposed one?


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It's impossible to predict the future. Even trying to determine what trends there may or may not be is next to impossible, because there are far too many variables, unforeseen events, and a myriad of potential consequences.
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Actually it's not impossible. The world is causal. If I hit a nail with a hammer, I can predict the result prior to the strike. I may not hit it the same way everytime but it is predictable. I can predict on a macro scale, the sun will rise tommorrow. So far I've been proven right every time.

Jung couldn't prove synchronicity but I still think it's there.

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I still think we'll be creating our own evolutionary "leap" through genetic manipulation in our own lifetime. First, out of necessity (disease), and then out of vanity and capitalism.
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Originally Posted by fltsfshr,Oct 4 2005, 09:43 AM
Actually it's not impossible. The world is causal. If I hit a nail with a hammer, I can predict the result prior to the strike. I may not hit it the same way everytime but it is predictable. I can predict on a macro scale, the sun will rise tommorrow. So far I've been proven right every time.

Jung couldn't prove synchronicity but I still think it's there.

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Within the context of evolution it is impossible. There are too many hammers and too many nails.
You aren't predicting that the sun will rise tomorrow, you're assuming that it will based on past behavior. They call that faith.
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No it a prediction based on math.

The faith part involves whether or not there is a sun when it goes away.

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Originally Posted by fltsfshr,Oct 4 2005, 04:09 PM
No it a prediction based on math.

The faith part involves whether or not there is a sun when it goes away.

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No, it's based on an assumption that the Laws of Physics will remain unchanged. There aren't many of us who are equipped to work out the mathematics and probabilities once, nevermind doing it each day and each waking second. There's no evidence that they will remain unchanged, which is where faith comes into play. Without that faith, we would all be driven to insanity by uncertainty.
How would you like to get up in the morning and find that Newton's Laws had all been repealed while you were sleeping?
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