"Universal" remote control
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 78,840
Likes: 7
From: On yo puter screen
^ With the harmony it will know what devices need to be on and off for each activity. So it will turn on and off the devices it does not need for a specified activity.
The simple answer is if your on watch tv and than you want to go to watch dvd you just press the watch dvd button. The harmony will do the rest for you.
The simple answer is if your on watch tv and than you want to go to watch dvd you just press the watch dvd button. The harmony will do the rest for you.
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 9,579
Likes: 157
From: West Deptford NJ
Originally Posted by OhioRacer' date='Jan 15 2009, 04:44 PM
Ok I finally started to unbox santa's gift. Question for you Harmony One users. If I have selected the activity "Watch TV" which I understand is simply a macro that executes multiple commands (i.e. Power on TV, CATV box, Receiver), and then decide to do another activity, say, "Watch DVD", do I have to shut everything down 1st? The last remote of this type that I had (Marantz RC5200) also executed macros. However, in moving from one activity to the next, the macro executed would not be appropriate if I am already doing something (i.e. watching TV). What would happen if I decided to "Watch a DVD" after "Watching TV" is it would excute the sequence, but power on, would actually be power off, since the TV was already on. I don't know if this is making sense or not. If not, ask and I'll clarify. Ken are you out there?
My thought is that the macro runs end-to-end. Therefore if you have a watch TV it will run no matter what. If you have discrete on and off capabilities for your devices, turning them on while they are on is not an issue. If you have toggle on/off devices (no discrete codes, then it will just go through a "button pushed" sequence, and any component that is powered up will power down.
I believe that your Marantz was like the Philips Pronto (touchscreen unit). They allowed for discrete on/off direct codes, I am sorry, I don't know if the Harmony uses them.
So to answer your question, I believe that everything must be off to use a "Turn-on" macro.
Maybe this will get you some ideas:
http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboar...armony/list.cgi
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,077
Likes: 0
From: EstesPark/BocaRaton
^ Nope.
The Harmony seems to remember the state of the various components in the system, so when you switch activities, it turns off what it doesn't need for the new activity and turns on the new devices it needs (at least in my system; all of my components were listed on the Logitech site and I didn't have to do any manual programming).
Now, if the Harmony is completely powered down (and I don't think I know how to do this; it seems always on), it probably would lose this memory.
Part of the lesson I learned with other "universal" remotes was always to keep the original component remotes available in case you need them to do something to a single device. I used to have to invoke this "emergency" measure all the time when I was using only the cable-box remote (which was programmed for the TV and audio system, too); but now I never seem to need it. Still, they can be useful. HPH
The Harmony seems to remember the state of the various components in the system, so when you switch activities, it turns off what it doesn't need for the new activity and turns on the new devices it needs (at least in my system; all of my components were listed on the Logitech site and I didn't have to do any manual programming).
Now, if the Harmony is completely powered down (and I don't think I know how to do this; it seems always on), it probably would lose this memory.
Part of the lesson I learned with other "universal" remotes was always to keep the original component remotes available in case you need them to do something to a single device. I used to have to invoke this "emergency" measure all the time when I was using only the cable-box remote (which was programmed for the TV and audio system, too); but now I never seem to need it. Still, they can be useful. HPH
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 78,840
Likes: 7
From: On yo puter screen
Originally Posted by DrCloud' date='Jan 15 2009, 08:47 PM
^ Nope.
The Harmony seems to remember the state of the various components in the system, so when you switch activities, it turns off what it doesn't need for the new activity and turns on the new devices it needs
The Harmony seems to remember the state of the various components in the system, so when you switch activities, it turns off what it doesn't need for the new activity and turns on the new devices it needs
Registered User
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 4,507
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
You can program the Harmony to either turn off or leave on any of the components when you use different macros.
Just watched a movie and now want to watch TV? You can program the macro to turn the DVD off when you switch over, while keeping on the TV.
Just watched a movie and now want to watch TV? You can program the macro to turn the DVD off when you switch over, while keeping on the TV.
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,674
Likes: 10
From: Myrtle Beach, SC
Originally Posted by cordycord' date='Jan 15 2009, 11:35 PM
You can program the Harmony to either turn off or leave on any of the components when you use different macros.
Just watched a movie and now want to watch TV? You can program the macro to turn the DVD off when you switch over, while keeping on the TV.
Just watched a movie and now want to watch TV? You can program the macro to turn the DVD off when you switch over, while keeping on the TV.
Yes Ken, the Marantz was basically the same as the Pronto. With that remote, if I executed a macro to watch TV, then decided to watch a DVD, it would cycle through the "watch a dvd" commands and power off my TV (since it was already on but it didn't know that).
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 78,840
Likes: 7
From: On yo puter screen
^ it does remember! go ahead and program it you will be pleasantly surprised.
also if you program it and it does not behave as you wish, contact logitech they will get it right for you. I had an issue with my tv not going to the correct input.
Lets put it this way the logitech tech not only programmed in the delay he also programmed in the direction of the tv input! instead of going the customary top to bottom to cycle thru the inputs he programmed it dependent upon which function I wanted, to speed up the response. So ifi am up in the inputs and my next desired function would be one of the last inputs listed instead of cycling thru all the inputs and the tv's delay it now just cycles thru the inputs backwards! My panasonic tv has a 3 second delay between inputs and thats a PITA
Your going to be impressed by the capability of the harmony.
also if you program it and it does not behave as you wish, contact logitech they will get it right for you. I had an issue with my tv not going to the correct input.
Lets put it this way the logitech tech not only programmed in the delay he also programmed in the direction of the tv input! instead of going the customary top to bottom to cycle thru the inputs he programmed it dependent upon which function I wanted, to speed up the response. So ifi am up in the inputs and my next desired function would be one of the last inputs listed instead of cycling thru all the inputs and the tv's delay it now just cycles thru the inputs backwards! My panasonic tv has a 3 second delay between inputs and thats a PITA
Your going to be impressed by the capability of the harmony.
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 9,579
Likes: 157
From: West Deptford NJ
Originally Posted by DrCloud' date='Jan 15 2009, 07:47 PM
^ Nope.
The Harmony seems to remember the state of the various components in the system, so when you switch activities, it turns off what it doesn't need for the new activity and turns on the new devices it needs (at least in my system; all of my components were listed on the Logitech site and I didn't have to do any manual programming).
Now, if the Harmony is completely powered down (and I don't think I know how to do this; it seems always on), it probably would lose this memory.
Part of the lesson I learned with other "universal" remotes was always to keep the original component remotes available in case you need them to do something to a single device. I used to have to invoke this "emergency" measure all the time when I was using only the cable-box remote (which was programmed for the TV and audio system, too); but now I never seem to need it. Still, they can be useful. HPH
The Harmony seems to remember the state of the various components in the system, so when you switch activities, it turns off what it doesn't need for the new activity and turns on the new devices it needs (at least in my system; all of my components were listed on the Logitech site and I didn't have to do any manual programming).
Now, if the Harmony is completely powered down (and I don't think I know how to do this; it seems always on), it probably would lose this memory.
Part of the lesson I learned with other "universal" remotes was always to keep the original component remotes available in case you need them to do something to a single device. I used to have to invoke this "emergency" measure all the time when I was using only the cable-box remote (which was programmed for the TV and audio system, too); but now I never seem to need it. Still, they can be useful. HPH
If the Harmony remembers, that's WAAAAAAY cool.
(But I still like my HTMs)
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,077
Likes: 0
From: EstesPark/BocaRaton
^ I'm not certain, of course, but that's my only explanation for its behavior. And I discovered that you can turn it off by taking out the battery.
But if you do, and the setup gets confused, then it also offers independent controls for each piece of equipment involved in a particular activity (something I hadn't appreciated before), so all that stuff about keeping the separate remotes handy may not be so important.
I still wish the buttons had a better tactile response, though. HPH
But if you do, and the setup gets confused, then it also offers independent controls for each piece of equipment involved in a particular activity (something I hadn't appreciated before), so all that stuff about keeping the separate remotes handy may not be so important.
I still wish the buttons had a better tactile response, though. HPH
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 9,579
Likes: 157
From: West Deptford NJ
Originally Posted by DrCloud' date='Jan 16 2009, 09:22 AM
I still wish the buttons had a better tactile response, though. HPH
But the reason I got rid of my Pronto was that feeling the button is always reassuring. That's why I like the HT Master "professional install" remotes. They have 10 soft buttons that can be programmed separately for each device, and each device can have multiple pages, so you can have a great number of commands with the 10 soft buttons and of course they have the usual compliment of "standard" buttons.
I have one full page of macros on the "main" page so that my lovely +1 can do single button commands for on/off and switching.
There a quite a number of folks on the Edge (DVDO vid processor) forum that have the Harmony 1 and really love it.