So on my local car forums there was one member who was offering

 

[QUOTE=aznives3,Jun 22 2009, 07:38 AM] So on my local car forums there was one member who was offering

 

1. cant imagine washing a car, driving it awhile to get it polished- maybe i am too picky... but i would never use a machine on a car that had been driven

2. he is doing a "high-side" job... he is hitting it and getting what you can easily see. you prob did a better job and got it all. his experience will allow him some time advantage, but mostly its just the perfection thing

3. so you drive it home unprotected? i guess thats ok, but i would then wash it and apply the synthetics/ waxes...

this sounds like a great idea for an "in between" service- not quite as good as you could do yourself, but a whole lot better than taking the car to a car wash!! or maybe good for a car that goes to the car wash-

interesting post... and will be interesting to see what the other wackos have to say

 

I don't believe it. I think its BS. There is no way hes polishing a car in 3-4 hours. plus he doesn't clay? I swear by claying. Might as well put the swirls right back in the car and dirty your pads.

 

well at a few points some members were asking him about washing before bringing the car to him. he said that even if the car was a "little dusty" it would be fine if they had to drive it to him after washing. That would be a big no-no in my books. He does do an LSP from what i gather, uses autoglym wax or something. Also said he uses the compound, but at 2400rpm...dont' most of you guys do your work at 13-1400? as for doing a "high side" defect removal, he did say that he gets rid of most if not all the stuff, as long as they're not too deep etc. Even not including all the extremities of the car as well, even if i rushed faster than anything, i could still see myself being hardpressed to finish a car in 3-4 hours, INCLUDING your wax.

 

I don't think I've ever run my rotary past 2000. I'll spin it at 2000 if I'm using Power Finish and a yellow 3M UK to get extra correction out of that combo if I need it, but really, I stick to around 1500. Anything faster seems unnecessary.

As to the wax, it depends on what he's using. If using Werkstat AJT, for example, you can have LSP down in like ten minutes.

Different strokes, but there are parts of this idea that I don't like.

 

i did ask him if he was doing 2 or 3 stage polishes etc in the time span,

and he replied that for lighter colored cars he would do a 2 step, and darker cars he would do a 3 step.

i'm not sure if he understood me right, i THINK what he is doing is going straight from compounding to LSP as a 2 step, and i'm not even sure what it is for a 3 step.

I'm going to try and inquire some more..

 

Maybe the people aren't educated as to what a perfect finish looks like.

A lot of people think black cars looks absolutely amazing in some cases when it's holo'd to hell and gone. While, yes, in the shade it may look great, but out in the sun the holograms show like no other. It's all about education as to what they want out of the car. On the N1 Concepts S2000 I did, the owner of N1, Norman, LOVED the car, but all I did was wash/wax it .

So again, maybe his customers think the car is at it's best potential, but it's really not. And I wouldn't down he's using glazes either. Not as a before for LSP, but to hide the rest of the defects

 

i don't buy what he's selling. Looks like it's asking for trouble by "wacko" standards. This is simply not a Wacko-quality job.

BUT THATS OK

the majority of the population doesn't even keep their vehicle waxed, let alone swirl free. His market is a much larger, less educated/picky one, and while cringe.... I understand it and think it's ok as long as the owners accept him doing the work. How much clear is he taking off / how many rotary holograms are hiden from natural filler in products are my biggest concerns.

I go through great lengths to safely work on customers vehicles and provide a great attention to detail in my work. If this guy's working that quick, I'm sure he's not even taking any paint measurements... once again I cringe, but it's on the customers.

<---- Won't polish a clients car if they plan on taking it to a swirl-o-matic washer after. I don't just like detailing - i like preserving

 

Aaron (and the rest of you) are dead on right. Most people don't "get it." And that's okay. I often hear it described as the "five foot rule." If the car looks good from five feet away, most people will be thrilled.

I've done a fair number of one-step jobs, and I've done some conceal jobs with Auto Balm, for people who don't have the budget (or time) for correction. I just make sure to tell them "this isn't going to be perfect," or "these defects are going to come back with time," that kind of thing.