ok, so i decided to ask him exactly what his process is like for his polishing stages and so here it is!

Yes I am using the makita 9227c I am using for the first stage Auto Glym 03B and Lake Country orange cutting pad, For stage 2 I am using Auto Glym 02B w/ lake country white/red pad. Ans if required I am using 01B Auto Glym glazing polish w/ lake country red pad. Final stage is a hand wax w/ Auto Glym radiant wax


As for RPM not exactly sure on the polisher there is a dial from 1-5 I believe I set it at 3.5

I agree with what you guys have said that maybe the people going to him have a different "sense" of what a detailed or nice looking car is. Maybe the fact that he's working in the evenings and the customers pick up at night might not be able to see any machine made defects either? or maybe people just don't know what they look like too, beats me, but you guys have transformed me into thinking that something like this just can't be tolerated haha

 

krchultz said:
The notion of not claying the car first is not a notion I subscribe to. Yes, technically, polishing/compounding the car will rid it of most, if not all, of the embedded contaminants. But...where do the contaminants go? They don't disappear. They probably end up in his pad. It's asking for trouble.


I'll have to agree. I usually go over the car with clearcoat polish between washing and claying. You can feel and hear the clay picking up contaminants after it has been cleaned with the clearcoat polish.

 

He's got another thread on the local forums, some customers have even posted pics!

Polishing

 

so whats the point? do you need a detail? or are you trying to expose someone in a bad way who's trying to make a business?

 

I was simply trying to find out if it was actually possible to polish a car and remove most defects, and get a wax in within his time frame of 3 to 4 hours. Because if that is indeed possible, i wanted to learn how because my last 2 polishing experiences took about 13-15 hours alone to polish. i wanted to know if there is something special that im missing out on because why would i keep wasting full weekends when its possible for someone else to do the same job in 1 night. I trust the opinions of the pro's on the W&W so i thought i would ask them as alot of the guys here do this to make a living

 

What he is doing is going to look better than 99% of the cars being cleaned every day. It's not up to par with the elites I've seen on this site.... but he's deffinately going to clean up the swirls nicely and restore the "new car" look. Which in all honesty is what most people are after. I give him props for being able to accomplish what he does in so little time. It recently took me 2 days to restore my car with my porter cable.

I see no problem in taking a car to him.

He's managed to get a nice customer base, keep them happy, and cut the average detailing time by quite alot.



I still don't understand how he can do it so fast.... he must have help

 

I don't think it has anything to do with being an elitist more-so than knowing what is quality work. I can bet 95% the work isn't quality. As you said yourself, it took you two days to restore your car. It doesn't matter how many ways you slice it, it won't be quality. Just because the customer THINKS it's quality because they are uneducated, doesn't mean it is.

That's part of our job as detailing gurus, professionals, and serious weekend warriors is to educate the general population as to what a GOOD detail looks like, and all that is involved.

I'm sorry, but there is absolutely NO way he finishes the job in 3 hours with quality being a priority. Who wants to guess how much polish residue in the jambs and on weather stripping is left behind? How many cars he has burned clear on?

Who knows.. but to say that we're elitist and he does good work because people are uneducated is pretty far off base. We have spent years, and countless hours researching detailing and reading write-ups as to what a good detail is (I've spent probably thousands of hours doing so) and now it's my duty to educate the general public to the best of my abilities. Don't take advantage of their ignorance. Feed them knowledge they can use to feed someone else and keep wacko's strong!

 

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