FluKy15

If you could offer up a way to solve the flow of vehicle traffic, and add the space for all the bike lanes you suggest, you would be a very wealthy man. Especially considering the city is hundreds of years old and was built like this well over 100 years ago, and is hard to modify it now to withstand all of this (traffic, bike, transit etc).

iDomN8U

Agreed. Hamilton is similar in that regard. They added the bike lanes to side roads that were parallel to major roads. This way you minimize cyclist on the more busy intersections since they would take the adjacent bike lane until they they reached the intersection they needed, thus reducing risk traveling far distance on a congested lane. Sacrificing one road for the greater safety of another road is a win win. As commuters will be able to travel faster due to less lane restrictions/slower traffic, cyclist gain a road for themselves. You do this every few blocks I would imagine everyone will adapt and win.

Of course I make it sound much easier then it is and I'm not even a resident But I don't see a flaw with this logic.

Then again, i'm counting on the hoverboard to be 100% in the next 2-3 years

LDubz735

Yeah, in Toronto, we're lucky to even get "sparrows" where there's a painted line to separate bikes. The only separated bike lane is on Sherbourne, but it doesn't work when you just have one. On some of the main arteries, they've started putting semi-separated lanes with plastic vertical tabs every few metres to "separate" traffic, which is an improvement.

Ideally, separated bike lanes are the safest. When I was biking in Copenhagen, it was amazing. Ttey also had their own lanes and traffic lights and everyone obeyed road rules.

As for helmets, the evidence doesn't actually support that they improve safety on a population level (of course, they do offer the minimum protection if you fall off your bike). Fining peeps for helmets (like in BC) also deters ppl from riding, whereas we know there's "safety in numbers" - so if a lot of ppl ride, then both cyclists and drivers become more aware, and safety increases. Again, in Copenhagen, no one wore I helmet as far as I could see, and there were way more bikes than cars.

Which comes to my last point, as oblivious as drivers are, there are probably at least as many horrible cyclists in Toronto who blatantly disregard traffic rules and/or pull dangerous sh1t on the roads.

iDomN8U

Back to my point, spread out 1000 cyclist over multiple roads and you don't have numbers. Create dedicated lanes every few blocks, following major arteries and now you're talking, you'll have numbers. Commuters will avoid those roads just like cyclist will avoid the major roads until needed.

C63AMG

Well f@#k, guess I have to sell my skateboard now.

myflys2k

Hover boards included

Himura357

Even out in Halton Hills. I want to go for a drive and there they are in the middle, yes the actual middle of the road and they don't move. Talk about owning the road. Infuriating.

C63AMG

If you run an idiot cyclist over and nobody sees, did it really happen?

Himura357

Don't give me any ideas