Cheap effective X brace? is there such an item?
08-26-2004, 09:46 AM
#11
Originally Posted by craig armstrong,Aug 26 2004, 06:16 PM
Ah, but I think mucking around with sway bars can have all sorts of effects on suspension which is why Biker1 and Turtle explained on my thread about a possible coilover upgrade that you have to consider these upgrades as a package and substantial tweaking may be necessary. I felt the brace bars merely stiffened the chassis and so were worth doing by themselves.
Not speaking as any form of expert, just recalling the caution that those far wiser than me advised.
Not speaking as any form of expert, just recalling the caution that those far wiser than me advised.
08-26-2004, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by S2000_Europe,Aug 26 2004, 05:46 PM
the Sway bar is use to transfer the mass, not to increase the stiff the chassis
I think you mean transfer load!
Which is does (in combination with the chassis) by stiffen the chassis in the area it is fitted and allowing another route to tranfer the load. ie Strut brace transfers from strut to strut as well as tying the two together to stiffen them!
Hence "enhanced" feeling of bumps!
I alos considered lower springs - even with progressive ones I was concerned the suspension would be comprimised. I do not want the expense and complications of a set of coilovers. I then went and put bling 18" alloys on. Reckon that ain't helping the suspension
but they do look 
(if U like tractors - Craig )
08-26-2004, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mikey k,Aug 26 2004, 07:42 PM
Even Einstien didn't manage to transfer mass through another mass!
I think you mean transfer load!
I think you mean transfer load!
his english is far better than my Spanish. Maybe babel fish will help 
08-26-2004, 02:46 PM
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For someone who only speaks it as a second language, you do just fine, Juan.
(You certainly do better than I would manage if I tried to post on a Spanish board - much beyond dos cervezas por favor and I start to struggle
I drove Craig's 02 in a back to back comparison with my own and can confirm that the steering felt more direct and responsive with the braces fitted to his.
(You certainly do better than I would manage if I tried to post on a Spanish board - much beyond dos cervezas por favor and I start to struggle
I drove Craig's 02 in a back to back comparison with my own and can confirm that the steering felt more direct and responsive with the braces fitted to his.
08-26-2004, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by S2000_Europe,Aug 26 2004, 05:46 PM
the Sway bar is use to transfer the mass, not to increase the stiff the chassis
I will refrain from trying to say anything in Spanish - I was in Barcelona last Friday/Saturday and I felt a right fool not being able to speak the lingo at all (I usually got to France and at least I have a few basic phrases up my sleeve)
08-27-2004, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by C7BLE,Aug 27 2004, 01:34 AM
el Moderatos aqui est inutil!
pero soy el semental!
pero soy el semental!
Craig in Barcelona is harder to understand because many people speak catalonian a language which came from the Spanish.
"Dos cervezas por favor" = to pints please!!! we speak the same language!!!!
Regarding a X brace I think Muz design is pretty cool because you do not have to uninstall it every time you change the oil.