Forgive me if I find this very funny...

All the US folks are up in arms that Honda has decided we're too fat and lazy to deal with the 2.0 anymore, and have saddled us with a "less-pure" 2.2l version of the old engine, and a toned down chassis (just for the record, I only weigh 10 stone... )

Meanwhile, the Brits are worried that they're missing out on something, or getting stuck with old tech.

The grass is always greener...

Anyway, my personal opinion is that Japan, as you'd expect, gets the best of both worlds... their choice of engines.
America gets the 2.2l because, well, that's what Japan decided. I really don't know. The actual real world differences between the 2.2l and the 2.0l I would imagine are pretty small. So I don't know that the S2000 will now magically appeal to a wider audience here, but that seems to be what they're hoping for.

Meanwhile, as the UK is probably a MUCH smaller market for this car (if only because of climate), they get the old motor. Japan probably knows how many they'll sell, so why risk introducing a new engine?

Of course I'm probably wrong on all counts...
From what I've been reading from people who have bought '04's here in the States, the new motor actually makes about 20whp more than the old motor. However, due to gearing changes, larger wheels, etc., the cars perform pretty much identically in terms of straight line speed.

As I own an '00, I must say I don't find it lacking torque in any way, perhaps because my other car is a turbo'd Impreza WRX. In fact, when I first drove the S, I was pretty surprised that it moved as well as it did (certainly enough to keep me satisfied) below 5k.

Losing the 9k redline is tough for existing owners here to swallow. It'll be interested to see how the new car does in sales.

 

Also get the dregs of production is unlikely, in typical production processes the worst comes out first and the very best close to last (not the very last tho.).

 

I think most would of us would prefer the 2.0 over here as I know that I certainly would but I also thought but forgot to mention something we all thought about when the new 04 details first started circulating. What about our residual values. The pre 04's have already been hit

 

It's ok, cos I'm saving up for the new NSX

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Colin Killick
I tought the diff between 210 and 225 TTs was the size of the Turbo and the mapping, a dealer told me this when I looked at 1.8 A4 Cab. apparently they use the 210.

 

The 210/225 has a bigger intercooler too.

 

I'm sure somebody will be able to source you a EU spec '9k' faceplate - assuming the 2.2l and 2.0l faceplates both use the same number of LED segments it'll still look like you're still bouncing off a 9k+ redline...

 

Well I'm not 100% what the slang Septics means, but it does not sound good....

Believe me, many of us over here on this side of the pond are NOT AT ALL HAPPY with the 2.2. Although it may have a few more ponies and a handful more torque, the lower redline leaves a bad taste in our mouth.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Triple-H

 

and the lower torque before 6k makes it easier to drive in the wet.