Daytona-Dave

looks like the paint is flaking off from a poor refurb

AshS2K

This!

I fit tyres all day and some are an absolute pig to get off the rim
Like Marks says, no matter how much effort you put in to not damaging the rim sometimes you end up with a tiny mark or two
We always point out to each other about any damage already on the wheel before we take the tyre off incase we get that one customer who is an absolute d*ck who blames us for damage already on the wheel (believe me, it happens)

Define198

well im not blaming them for damage that had already been done, i pointed out the only mark on a rear wheel that was already their, the wheels had been previously refurbed i know that, also its not just one mark or two, its literally all around the rim on most alloys, the guy said he could not get my rear left camber in the green, it ended up leaving it in the red at -2.00 or something like that with everything else in the green saying he could not match it no matter how he tried, but i have adjustable toe arms on the back so i would of thought with that much adjustment matching it would not be a problem?

think im going to point out the damage to all the alloys, not kick up too much fuss about it, but say that the car is now driving to the left with a straight wheel and that i want a refund unless he can get it all in the green as im going to go elsewhere for another geo! he did not clamp my steering wheel in place during the geo, he also did not adjust anything in any sort of order

also im pretty sure that the rear left wheel was green before he started the geo! just the front which was slightly out of spec, didnt get a before print out because he had to take a wheel off half way through to be able to get access to adjust my rear toe arm as the locking nut would not budge! i didnt even get a after print out i forgot to ask lol not that i should of needed to ask, every place i have been to automatically generic a print out.

Define198

Just took the car to the garage, guy said he cant get it booked in today he does not think because the ramp is busy all day but if he gets a spot free he said he will ring me, also said he will have a word with his paint guy about the alloys. So will wait and see.

Mike's

If he could not get the camber in check on the rear i would look at making sure the bush isnt seized,

Define198

100% not seized, i replaced the bolts and bushes on the back of the car myself with powerflex and installed the toe arms at the same time, and everything was then greased up with marine grade waterproof grease, the settings were moving, but he said the problem was when he got the camber in spec the toe went completely out and could not get them both green at the same time so the best he could do was in spec toe with -2.0 camber, the other wheel was fine and in spec.

This leads me to think that he just could not be bothered to fiddle about any longer to get the settings all green.

My car is lowered 25mm from stock height on OHLIN coilovers, but i cant see why he could not get everything in the green with all adjusters free and the extra adjustment given by the toe arms? they were all in spec when i had it geo'd with the new bushs in January before lowering.

markforrester99

Any chance you could post the print out?

Define198

I didnt get one :/ i was in a rush as i wanted to get back to work as i was having it done in my work time and i forgot to ask for print out, pretty sure the drivers side rear camber was -1.4(green) and the passenger side rear was -2.0(red) everything else was green on the computer, he claimed that this was such a small amount and would not cause any issues anyway and it was the best he could do, dont know if that is true? would the camber cause any problems?

rhauri

Is your car a pre-facelift?

I believe when you lower a pre-facelift it's difficult to get near OEM camber; does seem odd why you can get within OEM tolerance on the N/S though. To get to the bottom of why would require time and investigation.

That said, I run -2 at the back out of choice, and -1 at the front (many call this a fast road setup).

The red/green aspect is the OEM tolerance levels; its okay to go outside of these tolerances provided you know what your asking for and you want that setup.

I *think* I would be able to tell the difference between a car with -1.4 NS and -2 OS; but then only a blind test would reveal whether my bum is actually that sensitive or not!!

Never-the-less, I'd rather the rear to be consistent at -2 on both sides, than have -1.4 / -2; but I would couple the -2 rear wth a -1 front for sure.

HTH

Define198

My car is a facelift, i think the guy just was not very skilled with alignment and gave in saying thats best he could get, tbh he didnt even try that long to try and get it into spec on that corner, all the rest of the wheels were fairly easy to line up but i think he was just being lazy, either way im going over to get a refund for the alignment and will be taking it to another garage tomorrow to see if they have the same problem.

so if i have the same problem with the new garage shall i ask for -2 on the rear and -1 on the fronts, running the rest of toe and caster to oem facelift spec?