Does anyone know of the best places to go for driver training to learn how to handle the S better? I know of Car Limits from this forum, are their Airfield driver training days the best or their 1-2-1 tuition? I would like to learn how to heel & toe, etc.

Are there any similar places in the South of England or are Car Limits the only people that offer tuition in your own car?

 

I don't personally know of anything S2000 specific, however any race track will offer tuition and a track is going to be the best place to learn the limits

 

Really good to see someone wanting to learn to drive rather than just sticking go faster bits on.
You can do 1 to 1 training with Ed Moore of Motorsport-Events http://www.motorspor...2-1-tuition.php I did a half day and it was a lot of fun.

If you want to learn to heel and toe, you can do that yourself. It's really a question of practising with the engine off to begin with to get into the rhythm of it, and then finding some quiet roads to practice at low speeds.

Here's me doing it (watch from 30 seconds onwards).

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One thing I would add with heel and toe is that (in my experience) when you understand the concept and you get comfortable shifting your heel, it's much easier to do under heavy braking.

On a dry track that's pretty much the only time it'd happen anyway, until you get into trail braking and start blending it a bit, but if you start practising at lower speeds you might find yourself hopping around because as you press the clutch, it's easy to push the brake down a little further at the same time

you'll need to get good at heel toe under lighter braking for wet conditions. it will make you faster and much safer by avoiding locking the rear



Once you're happy with the engine off, then turn it on, depress the brake and try and rev the engine to around 7k. not any higher than this because you definitely dont want to be getting used to bringing the next gear in too early and sending it into the rev limiter! (nearly did this in my mx5 when i was learning)

 

The Ed Moore half day looks pretty good value - cheers for the heads up on that.

 

I'm also interested in doing something similar. Whilst I agree that a race track is a reasonable place to learn and I've had plenty of track based tuition in previous cars, I'd be more tempted by something airfield based where I can get upto and well passed the limits of the car and my ability so that I can see how it lets go, how far you get it out of shape etc (without the risk of bending the car) as at the moment I'm a bit unsure of where the limits are and think finding them and going passed them on a trackday might be a bit irresponsible and end up with me either meeting armco or getting black flagged.

Maybe a Car Limits day is what I'm after initially as I'm the wrong end of the country for Keevil really.

 

Car Limits will do it, as will the Ed Moore day (although prepare for some serious tyre wear if you do the Ed Moore day!)

 

Finding the limit and being comfortable on the limit are 2 completely different things

It will take more than a days tuition to get comfortable on the limit.

If you want to find the limit so you can stay away from it, fine, but I would suggest that if you end up in a barrier on a track, you're either getting over confident/make a mistake or don't listen to the instructor

It's all about building it up and gaining confidence at each level. You'll need to learn a lot about car control, corner entry, when to get on the power, being smooth etc before you can actually push the limits of a car, which is perfectly safe on track. On a track such as brands, you'll probably learn a lot more than an airfield. You're put through more dynamic situations and the corners are plentiful and all very different

 

I've organised an airfield track day at Abingdon in Oxfordshire if anyone is interested in that? Its a great starting point to learn the limits of the S and there is the opportunity to book 1-2-1 tuition for an hour at the cost of £60. If we get more than 10 people booked though we get 20 minutes of free tuition which can be topped up.

There are currently 8 of us going and a few more possibly booking up on payday so it would be great to see any of you guys there as well

Abingdon Airfield Track Day 9th Aug 13

 

Got a track day booked at elvington on 24th August with driver tuition in with the price