S2000 Driver training
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Originally Posted by Poobah' timestamp='1372258455' post='22631780
I'm also interested in doing something similar. Whilst I agree that a race track is a reasonable place to learn and I've had plenty of track based tuition in previous cars, I'd be more tempted by something airfield based where I can get upto and well passed the limits of the car and my ability so that I can see how it lets go, how far you get it out of shape etc (without the risk of bending the car) as at the moment I'm a bit unsure of where the limits are and think finding them and going passed them on a trackday might be a bit irresponsible and end up with me either meeting armco or getting black flagged.
Maybe a Car Limits day is what I'm after initially as I'm the wrong end of the country for Keevil really.
Maybe a Car Limits day is what I'm after initially as I'm the wrong end of the country for Keevil really.
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There is nothing S2000-specific because it handles very well, if slightly numb in standard form. Most instructors really like the car.
The car has a heavy, firm brake pedal so you can H&T easily at any speed, with practice.
There is nothing S2000-specific because it handles very well, if slightly numb in standard form. Most instructors really like the car.
The car has a heavy, firm brake pedal so you can H&T easily at any speed, with practice.
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Originally Posted by Poobah' timestamp='1372262352' post='22631939
Knowing where the limit is and how to control the car when you over step it can be highly beneficial for road driving. In normal run-of-the-mill road driving you shouldn't be pushing that hard but there's plenty of unforeseen road situations where it can be beneficial (diesel on the road, rain, ice, accidents etc). Even if you never take your car anywhere near a track it's worth knowing about the on limit characteristics and behaviour in my opinion.
As for heel & toe, it's a case of practice, practice and more practice. Someone can probably guide you, but I'm not sure you can really be taught. Just find a quiet road with no cars around to try it on, and most importantly, no reason for you to be embarassed at looking like a learner driver again.
I started by throttle matching without using the brake and using engine braking to slow me from the lower gears. This actually works well and it allows you to make a lot of bodging without smacking your head on the steering wheel!
Once you can throttle match at a variety of speeds smoothly (Lower engine speeds are harder), you can start incorporating the braking.
Ironically, you don't really use your heel and it's more toe and toe! Even in a Transit van, you're still missing the heel part! It's likely you'll brake harder when you rotate your foot for the throttle. I still do this now when getting into a new car so it should go after some practice.
As for driving the car - it's about the RWS IMHO. If you can get your head around it and how to use it, it all makes sense and leaps into corners. You have to trust it though which can take a little time and recalibrating your feeling meter
The steering is consistent. Yes, it doesn't shout feel at you in the way my Westfield did, but I much prefer it over hydraulic systems as there is a lot less bounce and no slowdown at low engine speeds. I suppose it depends on what you want, but my other senses tell me far more about what the car is actually doing over steering feedback. That's not me making up for so called short coming, that's just what I want from a car steering system. So I suggest that the OP - use the fact that your ar5e is over the rear axle to sense yaw instead of white knuckle from hyper active steering feel!
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