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UK & Ireland S2000 CommunityDiscussions related to the S2000, its ownership and enthusiasm for it in the UK and Ireland. Including FAQs, and technical questions.
I got one last night, but I'm still not sure exactly what it was for. It seems a bit vague. I will fully admit to "giving it the beans", but I wasn't doing anything I would have perceived as dangerous and/or illegal.
Here is the location:
It's a two lane exit from a roundabout, heading towards a 3-lane bit of the A19. I was in the empty lane 1, and a queue of traffic was in lane 2, probably travelling at around 40mph.
I zipped along lane 1, at a reasonable pace. I didn't exceed the speed limit (70mph), and actually probably eased off at around 60mph. I did use Vtec (the snow has cleared up here), and my airbox lid is off. I then joined the main queue of traffic and ambled along with the flow of it.
I didn't think it was considered untertaking if I was on a slip road like that. Can someone clarify? If it is, then oops.
In the meantime an unmarked Focus ST pulled out of lane two and started tailgating me. If I'd have had to step on the brakes for any reason, they would have been straight into the back of me, but that's another issue.
Several seconds later the blue lights came on, and I was told this:
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public,
So was I pulled for undertaking? Presumably I would have been done for a "proper" offence, such as dangerous driving, if that was the case?
Or was I done for using Vtec (being noisy), or a combination of the two?
It was a law supposed to allow the police to seize Barried up Saxos at cruises.
If the cars were legal but local residents were annoyed or distressed ( ) then the police could issue a S59 and if the driver was cought again, his car was impounded.
A kneejerk law, wide open to misapplication and misinterperetation, but giving the police more powers they didn't need.
Seems Cleveland police are using to to up their crime clearup statistics (your 'crime' was commited and cleared up all in one nice tidy operation, making their stats look better, wonder if their clearup rate for burglary is as good.....).
Sounds like ASBO legislation. We have similar up here in Scotland but our legislation differs:
Contravention of Section 3 (careless driving) or 34 (driving on a place other than a road) leads to the driver being warned for anti social behaviour and the vehicle being tagged.
This is then registered on PNC.
If that person or that vehicle is found to contravene Sections 3 or 34 again, the vehicle is seized (or the other vehicle the person is using).
I need to start wearing a baseball cap, and tucking my "trackies" into my socks.
To be honest, I was more bothered about the officer's attitude more than anything else. His arrogance was astonishing.
Oh, I forgot to add this bit. Once they'd let me out of the car he told me to "'ang on a minute", then proceeded to search my car. He then said that he could smell cannabis on me. I'd been at work all day, and haven't smoked that since my teens (and I don't think the smell lingers for that long).
I offered the explanation that I smoke roll-ups (which is true), so perhaps it was that. He said, no, it's definitely cannabis. Then he called me back to their car, and breathalised me, before sending me on my way.
(a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public
So unless you went off road, you have to have contravened S3, "3. If a person drives a motor vehicle on a road without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road, he is guilty of an offence."
If he's saying you were given an official warning about the "distress or annoyance", you also had to be driving without due care, or rasonable consideration for others" otherwise he couldn't have issued the warning.
If you could be bothered, it might be worth a letter to the area commander.
surely the S with airbox lid off abides by noise regulations (there are covered in MOT, but rarely enforced ime) and thus 100% completely legal even when giving it beans.
(i presume they are going with the VTEC noise rather than anything else)
I got one of these a good few years ago now. Just dont get another one in the next 12 months otherwise they take your car and charge you the earth to get it back!