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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 05:01 AM
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Those who attended Loftut's technical day will remember Julian, who's premises we used, in which he was starting an MX-5 fixing operation - and his talk on undersealing.

Given that mine was in pretty shocking state, I looked around at getting a pro-job done and couldn't find anywhere offering much change from £400, other than a Waxoyl place in Norwich (Rust Buster), a 500 mile+ round-trip, or the utter hideousness of doing it myself.

Remembering Julian, I got his contact details from Loftust, got a spectacularly reasonably quote from someone I had already met and duly went down to South Hampshire on Friday lunchtime and handed the keys to Julian.

3 hours later and having witnessed the thoroughness of the work at first-hand, including removal of arch-liners and every single item of rust flake, and the application of Waxoyl in less vulnerable places and more expensive non-parafin-based stuff where it really matters, I handed over not much more than £100. And a fiver for a pie and a decent pint at the Cricketers, 15 mins walk away and open all day.

Very impressed with Julian's work, including his S knowledge even though he's an MX-5 guy (Loftust to thank for that no doubt) and very, very impressed with the price. Now happy to drive her through the winter and un-ashamed to put her on a lift for all to see her under-side.

Big recommendation

No doubt Loftust would be happy to supply contact details to anyone considering it.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 05:15 AM
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I jacked mine up and under-sealed it myself, including buying a applicator gun to be used with a compressor it costed me £40
I could do another cat for about £10-15 in materials,
I would personally look into doing it yourself as the savings are quite allot.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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I've got this same job to do myself and i'm struggling to find the excitement. Hadn't expected the underseal to be thin enough to go through a compressor gun - good idea!
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 08:44 AM
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Bookmarked this page! I need to get this done on my 2002...
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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Thanks for the plug

FWIW, Julian (aka Doctor MX5), is one of just five people that I am happy to let loose on my S. I'm a right fussy bugger, and he's excellent

Undersealing is essential IMO...I've seen plenty of S2000s that look utterly hideous on the underside...there's not enough underseal applied in production and some areas are completely lacking

Julian's undersealing is extremely comprehensive, and includes MUCH more than you'd think to do yourself. I shan't reveal his secrets, but his sill protection is superb

It's a case of protective maintenance as well...it would cost a fortune to implement corrective repairs when rust starts to eat away at the car.

CJ...make sure you get a decent quality underseal...some of the foamy yellow stuff is utterly diabolical. Some underseals need mixing with a lubricant to get them thin enough too. I would personally advise not to do it on axle stands if using a spray gun, it's really nasty stuff...if you have a respirator however

I'd be more than happy to pass on his details to anyone that is interested in having this done, or just needs the odd rabbit job doing.

Here's his site:

http://www.doctormx5.com/
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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you can buy a special applicator gun for underseal, it has a much larger pick-up nozzle and spray nozzle to give the different texture finish,
screw's straight onto the top of the bottles you can buy

if you are doing it yourself search for "3m body schutz" on ebay for the seal or i sourched it from a local auto paint supply merchant and "underseal/underbody gun" for the gun if you have a compressor

i used 2" marking tape to mask off the wheel arch lips and body sill's where its painted body colour to eliminate any over spray and it worked well.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by rob2.2
I jacked mine up and under-sealed it myself, including buying a applicator gun to be used with a compressor it costed me £40
I could do another cat for about £10-15 in materials,
I would personally look into doing it yourself as the savings are quite allot.
I could not be arsed to faff around doing this, at all.

That's why I pay people to do shitty things like this for me
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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I did mine whilst it was already jacked up as i was changing the Engine so was no extra hassle and its really not a shitty job at all its actually quite clean if you prep and be careful,

I refuse to pay people to do nice simple jobs that i can easily do. I must of saved nearly £1k on doing worth to the car myself so far

Originally Posted by AquilaEagle
Originally Posted by rob2.2' timestamp='1313932525' post='20898809
I jacked mine up and under-sealed it myself, including buying a applicator gun to be used with a compressor it costed me £40
I could do another cat for about £10-15 in materials,
I would personally look into doing it yourself as the savings are quite allot.
I could not be arsed to faff around doing this, at all.

That's why I pay people to do shitty things like this for me
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rob2.2
I did mine whilst it was already jacked up as i was changing the Engine so was no extra hassle and its really not a shitty job at all its actually quite clean if you prep and be careful,

I refuse to pay people to do nice simple jobs that i can easily do. I must of saved nearly £1k on doing worth to the car myself so far

Originally Posted by AquilaEagle' timestamp='1313953987' post='20899392
[quote name='rob2.2' timestamp='1313932525' post='20898809']
I jacked mine up and under-sealed it myself, including buying a applicator gun to be used with a compressor it costed me £40
I could do another cat for about £10-15 in materials,
I would personally look into doing it yourself as the savings are quite allot.
I could not be arsed to faff around doing this, at all.

That's why I pay people to do shitty things like this for me
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I totally agree, I've undersealed mine as and when I'd removed bits and pieces. Did behind the rear bumper when I was sorting out the rear boot vent, did both front wheel arches when I had the liners off to clean the shite from behind them, the rear arches. I also did inside the doors when I had the door cards off, ensuring all drain holes werent blocked up. Mines very clean underneath, had a good look at the last MOT but still plan to underseal the rest. I agree it can be a bit messy but once you've got the compressor setup and the underseal warmed up it's a really satisfying job.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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Whether it's a shitty job or not depends on what state the underside is in before you start - it's not the undesealing, it's the prep that takes time and goggles and face-masks and a couple of showers after and a knackered back and shoulders the next day, if the underside is like mine is.

Or was, and thanks to a couple of tanks of juice equivalent, never will be again

So I'm happy - but certainly understand those who'd rather spend it on a couple of tanks of juice; I know the prep's shitty because because that's the choice I made when I was younger
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